tony.vds Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Am I the only one to find this project quite disturbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seb phillips Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 https://www.shroudsofthesomme.com/ Er - yes. Now you mention it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 11 October , 2018 Admin Share Posted 11 October , 2018 I think it is a worthwhile project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 It's been discussed on the Forum previously ut my abilities with the search facility are singularly poor. That said, I saw it in Exeter in the summer and my wife and daughter, and my daughter's boyfriend, all found it rather moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 I walked past it a few times recently at Thiepval. Like the previous "artistic interpretation" in the same location I don't like it at all and won't go near it. Each to their own, but for me it adds nothing to what is already there and I wish it was elsewhere - somewhere even easier to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Previous thread on the subject here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunga Din Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 (edited) The original Shroud website had all the numbers wrong - something that even the tabloid journalists have managed to avoid doing in the past 4 years - , which suggests they had more of an eye on other things rather than historical accuracy. Gunga Din Edited 27 October , 2018 by Gunga Din Typo Shroud for Shruod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 Nice to have you back, Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekb Posted 11 October , 2018 Share Posted 11 October , 2018 I saw an article about this on the news and I think it is in poor taste, bearing in mind that I am a “one off” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 13 October , 2018 Share Posted 13 October , 2018 Mawkish in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelclark Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 Good grief! What next? One shouldn’t be surprised though. The Centenary has thrown up some tacky junk and padded diaries. I bought some of the latter before realizing that it might be better to do a bit of research before hitting the “buy now” button. Having said that, I did buy a Passchendaele Poppy from the British Legion which I understand was made from old shell casings and soil from Ypres. Each pin was named to a particular soldier who died there, and (in my opinion)was in keeping with the sentiment the poppy portrays. I assume they didn’t discriminate on the basis of race if the soldier was in the British Army. Just liked the idea of having something for myself to commemorate the Centenary. However, I remember a thread about “posh poppies”so they may not be to everyone’s taste either. Missed out on the Tower Poppies. The picture of the man holding the doll or whatever it is, is enough to make one want to throw up. Hazel C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 I wonder what the artist`s motives are in cases such as this. Self gratification, irresistible artistic expression or philanthropy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Filsell Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 Clearly the 'artist, is going for the Turdner Prize. Tasteless, thoughtless, pointless all come to mind - but I someone, somewhere must think it art!. I think a parody of commemoration - waste of time, effort and space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 Out of interest, apart from being the only person to not hate the things, am I also the only person actually to have seen them in the flesh, so to speak? Is that a coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 No. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: Out of interest, apart from being the only person to not hate the things, am I also the only person actually to have seen them in the flesh, so to speak? Is that a coincidence? Now did you buy one at £95.00 and line the artist's pockets, Oh nearly forgot a small percentage is going to good causes so its alright then Its just me being cynical again Edited 14 October , 2018 by RaySearching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelclark Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: Out of interest, apart from being the only person to not hate the things, am I also the only person actually to have seen them in the flesh, so to speak? Is that a coincidence? Ahem! Maybe! However, I have to say my first reaction on looking at the link, was revulsion, although not for for any deeper reason than that. Maybe it seemed better in the flesh?? I have also become fed up with some of the other stuff that has been spewed out in the name of “commemoration “ H. Edited 14 October , 2018 by hazelclark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 5 hours ago, PhilB said: I wonder what the artist`s motives are in cases such as this. Self gratification, irresistible artistic expression or philanthropy? Artists fees money,money.money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 2 minutes ago, RaySearching said: Artists fees money,money.money 6 hours ago, PhilB said: I wonder what the artist`s motives are in cases such as this. Self gratification, irresistible artistic expression or philanthropy? All of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Lees Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 26 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: Out of interest, apart from being the only person to not hate the things, am I also the only person actually to have seen them in the flesh, so to speak? Is that a coincidence? No. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelclark Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 2 minutes ago, squirrel said: All of the above. I don’t think that is entirely fair. I am sure some of them are motivated by higher ideals, but there has been just too much stuff that has nothing to recommend it. I did, however, wonder how much the Passchendaele Poppy raised for the Legion compared with the creator. In this latest case the same question might be of interest. Hazel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 1 hour ago, Gareth Davies said: No. Yes. Have you seen them? Has anyone else seen them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaySearching Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 1 hour ago, hazelclark said: I did, however, wonder how much the Passchendaele Poppy raised for the Legion compared with the creator. In this latest case the same question might be of interest. Here is a rough breakdown Paul Cummins Ceramics Blood Swept Lands and seas of Red C.I.C Ltd Total realised from sales 23,024,304 During the period services and goods were supplied by the following parties relating to installation costs Paul Cummins Ceramics Limited 7,175,526 Historic Royal Palaces 1,360.000 Distributed to charitable causes 8,422,916 So a little over a third went to charitable causes How much profit did Paul Cummins make from the enterprise "he's not saying" Now how much will the creator of the figurines make, I assume he's not saying either Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 I haven't but in one of the photographs of them that I saw online there were definitely people looking at them ;-) 1 hour ago, Steven Broomfield said: Out of interest, apart from being the only person to not hate the things, am I also the only person actually to have seen them in the flesh, so to speak? Is that a coincidence? 25 minutes ago, Steven Broomfield said: Have you seen them? Has anyone else seen them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirrel Posted 14 October , 2018 Share Posted 14 October , 2018 1 hour ago, hazelclark said: I don’t think that is entirely fair. I am sure some of them are motivated by higher ideals, but there has been just too much stuff that has nothing to recommend it. I did, however, wonder how much the Passchendaele Poppy raised for the Legion compared with the creator. In this latest case the same question might be of interest. Hazel I agree with your comment "but there has been just too much stuff that has nothing to recommend it". There is a vast industry in "remembrance" items that do not provide any donations to Service Charities and some of it is complete tat, some mawkish in the extreme. Just a money making exercise for those making and selling it. I just do not understand the concept behind Shrouds of the Somme and find it mawkish and in poor taste. I'll stop there, but if I see or hear Binyon's, "They shall grow not old" misquoted again I shall probably need therapy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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