4thGordons Posted 14 November , 2015 Share Posted 14 November , 2015 (edited) Those look to me like they may be 8mm Lebel rounds. I cannot shed much additional light on the headstamps but I think they usual format was Case Maker (abbrv), Metal Supplier (abbrv), Date, Quarter (of the year) If someone has a list of manufacturers then they may be able to help Chris Edited 14 November , 2015 by 4thGordons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajan Posted 14 November , 2015 Share Posted 14 November , 2015 Well, not Gew.98 cartridge cases! SS will chip in with his two bob's worth, but he will almost certainly ask the same question as the one on the tip of my tongue - dimensions? EDIT: 4G, internet is faster your way...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset1 Posted 14 November , 2015 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2015 Cheers. Casings.... Dimensions for the two casings as follows : Length from base to top - 50 MM Base width - 15 MM Top - 8 MM Lebels.... Dimensions for larger lebel : Length - 32 MM Base width - 8mm Dimensions for smaller lebel: Length - 26 MM Width : 8mm Hope this helps us solve the mystery. Thanks as always Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset1 Posted 16 November , 2015 Author Share Posted 16 November , 2015 Struggling to determine the type of ammuntion. I know they are French but fired by what ? Nothing to identify on the base such as a headstamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 16 November , 2015 Share Posted 16 November , 2015 They all look to be 8mm Lebel, standard french round. Fired by virtually all French service rifles and machine-guns. So Lebel and Berthier rifles and carbines, some earlier rifles like the Gras which were modified to 8mm Lebel for second line service, and even a version of the Remington Rolling Block rifle and, of course, variety of automatic weapons Shortish dumpy looking rimmed cases, without the pronounced shoulder you see on .303 Brit (which is also rimmed, most other service rounds (ie Mauser rounds of various sorts) apart from 7.62mm x54 Russian are rimless). Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset1 Posted 17 November , 2015 Author Share Posted 17 November , 2015 Thanks Chris. Think I am with you now. Rimmed with pronounced shoulder - British 303 Short and dumpy without rim - French Russian - rimless Can you confirm whether you believe the German are rimmed or rimless ? I always thought the German fired by a Mauser were rimmed? Thanks for your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 17 November , 2015 Share Posted 17 November , 2015 Thanks Chris. Think I am with you now. Rimmed with pronounced shoulder - British 303 Short and dumpy without rim - French Russian - rimless Can you confirm whether you believe the German are rimmed or rimless ? I always thought the German fired by a Mauser were rimmed? Thanks for your time No! Let me try again! Rimmed with pronounced shoulder - British 303 Rimmed but shorter and "dumpy" without pronounced shoulder - French Lebel 8mm (these) Rimmed longer - 7.62x54r Russian Rimless - 7.92mm (and other) Mauser rounds Rimless - 30.06 Springfield Here is a guide which may be of use to you (see especially p4 where is shows a comparison of rimmed/rimless, what you are calling rimmed (where there is an indentation) is actually rimless (eg German Mauser round), a rim projects out beyond the circumference of the body of the casing like on your Lebels) Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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