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Martin, thanks for posting the complete Westmann  interview.   I believe you are correct when you surmise he was with IR 113 (or possibly, IR's 114, 112 or 142, of the 29th's Divisions 57th or 57th Brigades).   My grandfather's account of Mulhouse, where his IR 169 of the 84th Brigade, ran into much heavier French resistance there then what Westmann described.  His account of the long forests and cornfields also match my grandfather's journal.    It was especially interesting to here him speak of his time at La Bassee in December 1914, as my grandfather was wounded there in early January 1915.  It was fascinating hearing these accounts first hand, as Westmann appears to be about the same age as I remember my grandfather to be when I was a boy.    

 

Thanks again,   John Rieth

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Martin Feledziak
3 minutes ago, German IR 169 said:

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Yes it is fantastic to hear him talk, strangely the clip plays a little too fast and lifts his pitch too much. 

I was thinking IR113 because he states they marched out of Frieburg and I have seen an infantry card featuring a barracks there for 113.

 

Yes I think he was talking about the brick stacks - which I am sure featured the following year in the battle of Loos 25th September 1915.

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German IR 169

Greetings, this post is in response to Pete's (BKK) post of 20 Nov.   I am pleased to see that my book helped you understand some more of your grandfather's WW I experiences.   Like Otto Lais' story, your grandfather was also incredibly fortunate to survive the war.   Lais' account was indeed fascinating, and we are fortunate to have his story as a core part of IR 169's story.   I've attached a photo of my grandfather's IR 169/109 regimental stein (His Battalion from IR 109 was transferred to IR 169 in 1913).   The stein, as well has a small photo scrap book, were the only items he seemed to to retain after he moved to the US.

 

Again, thanks  your post.  With your permission, can I add those photo's of your grandfather to my IR 169 website (www.ironregiment169.com)

 

Best regards, John Rieth

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BKK
20 hours ago, German IR 169 said:

Greetings, this post is in response to Pete's (BKK) post of 20 Nov.   I am pleased to see that my book helped you understand some more of your grandfather's WW I experiences.   Like Otto Lais' story, your grandfather was also incredibly fortunate to survive the war.   Lais' account was indeed fascinating, and we are fortunate to have his story as a core part of IR 169's story.   I've attached a photo of my grandfather's IR 169/109 regimental stein (His Battalion from IR 109 was transferred to IR 169 in 1913).   The stein, as well has a small photo scrap book, were the only items he seemed to to retain after he moved to the US.

 

Again, thanks  your post.  With your permission, can I add those photo's of your grandfather to my IR 169 website (www.ironregiment169.com)

 

Best regards, John Rieth

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John, Now that is a Stein! What a historic family treasure that is with his name actually on it. Incredible that it made it to America in such beautiful condition!!

 

I would be honored to have my grandfather's photo on your website. Here are some touched up versions. Thank You!

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German IR 169

Thanks very much Pete, I look forward to posting it, and will also put in that summary of his service that you put together.  That is some fine detective work there, and indeed, his service does track the 52nd Division History nicely.   All the Best, John

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BKK
14 hours ago, German IR 169 said:

Thanks very much Pete, I look forward to posting it, and will also put in that summary of his service that you put together.  That is some fine detective work there, and indeed, his service does track the 52nd Division History nicely.   All the Best, John

John,

Here is an updated timeline of my grandfather's service that I have been able to put together from records. It really shows how soldiers were moved around in 1917-1919. It also gives some light into how some were passed around after the war ended. A whole lot of moving around in 2 years.

 

Travels from St Gallen Switzerland

15 Mar 1917 – Enters Army, 3 Komp II Battalion Ersatz 111 IR Rastatt (#783)

29 Mar 1917 – Basic Training. II Recruit Depot II Battalion 111 IR (#2124)

28 May 1917 – Advanced Training? 2 Komp II Battalion 111 Ersatz (#2030)

20 Jun 1917 – Transferred to 3 Komp Field Recruit Training, 52nd Inf Div in Field

7 Jul 1917 – Transferred to 4 Komp Field Recruit Training, 52nd Inf Div in Field

26 Aug 1917 – Transferred to 5 Komp Field Recruit Training, 52nd Inf Div in Field

8 Sep 1917 - 2 Komp IR169 (#1325)

25 Oct 1917 – Light Wounded in leg - Artillery, Vic Lizy France. Chem de dames

4 Nov 1917 - Transferred to 10 Komp 111IR (#1095)  (Records Correspond exactly to what you stated in your book. He was one of the 110 men transferred)

30 May 1918 - Wounded Left Hand – Grenade. Vic Vandeuil (Spring Offensive)

30 May 1918 - Treated in Field Hospital

8 Jun 1918 - Evacuated to Army Hospital in Riedlingen, Germany

25 June 1918 – Transferred to Convalescent Komp 2 Ersatz 111 IR (#8338)

11 July 1918 – Transferred to 2 Komp 2 Ersatz 111 IR (#2235)

19 Sep 1918 – Transferred to 10 Komp 111 IR (#1095), Battle for Exermont, Montrebeau Woods

1 Nov 1918 – Wounded Left Hand - Grenade. Massive Artillery Barrage. Vic Landres et St Georges

4 Nov 1918 – Transferred to Army Hospital in Biberach, Germany

15 Nov 1918 – Transferred to Convalescent Komp Ersatz 110 IR (Location?) (#9508)

23 Nov 1918 – Transferred to Landstrum Infantrie Battalion XIV/30 Komp 3, Mosbach

1 Jan 1919 – Transferred to 2 Komp 110IR

6 Jan 1919 – Transferred to 10 Komp 110IR (#1364)

17 Mar 1919 – Transferred to 9 Komp 110IR

26 Mar 1919 – Transferred to Dismissal Company Ersatz 110 IR

17 Apr 1919 – Departs Army to St Gallen, Switzerland

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Here some interesting Uniform and Equipment photos I found in the Baden Archive.

 

 

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Some IR169 items found on the net. Interesting the document for the award of the wound badge to IR169 Soldier Franz Alois Lemmen.

 

Also the Baden Silver Medal of Merit.

 

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In the last entry of Franz Alois Lemmen several of his medals were shown. Here is the silver Medal of Merit, which was awarded to Franz on March 12, 1915.

 

Together with the medal he received an enclosed certificate from the Grand Duke of Baden.

 

It confirms that Franz belonged to the 8th Infantry Division No. 169 of Baden. This was a unit of the German -Prussian army, which consisted mainly of troops of the Grand Duchy of Baden and was founded in 1871 in Karlsruhe.

 

Ettlingen belonged to the Grand Duchy of Baden, which existed between 1806 and 1918.

 

 

An interesting blog found here about numerous Baden soldiers from the town of Ettlingen. Individual stories and documents. Go to the blog Archive.

 

http://ettlingenww1de.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

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Martin Feledziak
On 22/11/2018 at 14:00, BKK said:

type "G" in language box and German Fraktur will come up

 

Have you noticed that the Fraktur option is not available anymore.

 

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German IR 169

Great pictures and certificates, thanks also for posting the link.

 

John

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BKK

Not 169 Specific, but interesting :)

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German IR 169

Indeed, great photo!   This could make for a good 'name that caption' contest.   

 

"Would you like your Strawberry tart with more or less rat?"

 

"Heinrich, Germany's original 'Batman.'"

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12 hours ago, German IR 169 said:

Indeed, great photo!   This could make for a good 'name that caption' contest.   

 

"Would you like your Strawberry tart with more or less rat?"

 

"Heinrich, Germany's original 'Batman.'"

My grandfather did say he ate rats to survive. He said that since he was from Switzerland he did not have the ability to get care packages mailed to him like the German men. The respect for food, and eating your whole plate stuck with him for life. 

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Tomb1302

I must say, I admire your preservation of history through a commemorative novel.

 

I aspire to achieve the same with my ancestors - Thank you for the inspiration.

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