Fattyowls Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 (edited) UG is spot on, it is the young Heinz Guderian. As we were discussing the role of Erwin Rommel who characteristically got much of the publicity for the events of May 1940 I thought I would post the man who I think deserves more of the credit. Details of his WW1 service are sketchy but if he was drafted onto the General Staff he must have been a sharp cookie even then. Which leads us neatly onto...... An image from Pininterest again found via Duck Duck Go. Sorry to put up a second youthful individual UG but I sense the inmates are on a roll and can cope with two at once. Edited 18 December , 2017 by Fattyowls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 14 minutes ago, Fattyowls said: UG is spot on, it is the young Heinz Guderian. As we were discussing the role of Erwin Rommel who characteristically got much of the publicity for the events of May 1940 I thought I would post the man who I think deserves more of the credit. Details of his WW1 service are sketchy but if he was drafted onto the General Staff he must have been a sharp cookie even then. Which leads us neatly onto...... An image from Pininterest again found via Duck Duck Go. Sorry to put up a second youthful individual UG but I sense the inmates are on a roll and can cope with two at once. He looks like Manstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Uncle George said: He looks like Manstein. Because that's who it is, good stuff UG. I thought that since we had the poster boy and the real driving force of Case Yellow we should feature its designer. Von Manstein was one of the bright young staff officers under first Von Gallwitz at Verdun and later with Von Lossberg on the Somme apparently, although I'd like to follow all of their experiences up. How that influenced their decisions during the second unpleasantness fascinates me. Pete. P.S. There is something familiar about the young man you posted but I'm struggling to turn that into any kind of search. Edited 18 December , 2017 by Fattyowls Only vague grasp of the rules of English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 1 hour ago, Uncle George said: While we await Pete's confimation (or not), who is this ? ? ? Garson de Gaulle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 (edited) How about this chap??? Edited 18 December , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 51 minutes ago, neverforget said: Garson de Gaulle. Yes, the Great Asparagus himself. Image from Charles Williams' 'The Last Great Frenchman' (1993). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 7 minutes ago, Uncle George said: Yes, the Great Asparagus himself. Image from Charles Williams' 'The Last Great Frenchman' (1993). My good fortune that you chose a picture with which I was familiar. My heroic chap was shot in the head by a sniper but survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 (edited) On 12/12/2017 at 23:30, voltaire60 said: Try the story of AP Scotland (London Cage) and the tale in "Blackwoods" about him serving as Schottland in German South West. It was "bo****s that would adorn an African elephant. A warrant was issued for the arrest of Alexander Paterson Scotland after he refused to handover files which he had at his home, referring to war crimes. The duty police inspector played it very cleverly by ringing him at home in London explaining what was about to happen. Scotland quickly handed over the files. TR Edited 18 December , 2017 by Terry_Reeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 55 minutes ago, neverforget said: My good fortune that you chose a picture with which I was familiar. Same for me with this one from your good self That is Angus Buchanan VC, MC of Coleford in Gloucestershire, who’s grave I visited early this summer. Link to brief history https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Buchanan_(VC), and a film of his VC investiture from pathé news:- https://www.britishpathe.com/video/royal-visit-to-bristol-and-bath-investiture-at-dur/query/bristol This is from Daily Telegraph in 2014, and has the same photo as it’s lead in:-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/inside-first-world-war/part-eleven/10938597/blind-victoria-cross-winner-coleford-gloucestershire.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 Fair cop John. Your last link was the one I had ready to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 Hi NF I was involved in some local history research etc. and it was a coincidence that you happened to pick him and I still had links to his life etc, on the iPad these might be of interest:- http://www.vconline.org.uk/angus-buchanan-vc/4586005053 https://www.worldwar1postcards.com/dunstans.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 (edited) Continuing the theme of the young Guderian, Manstein, de Gaulle. (He is not Pete Doherty). Edited 18 December , 2017 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 Thanks John. I'd had him on my mind for a while. A remarkable man who showed great courage both during and after the war. Died at 49, so not a good innings at all really. I remember posting Arthur Pearson a long time ago. Seems almost another lifetime ago actually. Haven't a clue on your Pete Doherty lookalike Uncle George, other than perhaps a Russian, but I'm not even too sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 4 minutes ago, neverforget said: Pete Doherty Though I bl**dy well recognised him as a musician but couldn’t put a name to him, thanks NF. I also think that he’s Russian and by the looks of it, that star on his headpiece suggests the photo is post revolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 Doherty was UG's shout to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 Thanks for pointing it out NF and apologies to you UG, must have seen it and carried the thought sub-consciously into reading the next post. Still not got a clue on his identification though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 18 December , 2017 Share Posted 18 December , 2017 7 minutes ago, Knotty said: Still not got a clue on his identification though. He was a military thinker, theoretician, author: and he and de Gaulle had even more in common - a close connection, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Uncle George said: He was a military thinker, theoretician, author: and he and de Gaulle had even more in common - a close connection, in fact. I notice on de Gaulle's wiki page a reference to him meeting one Marshal Mikhail Tukhachevsky whilst being held as a P.O.W. The link to Tukhachevsky's page provides this picture: I'm not convinced, but I'll put him forward as a suggestion? EDIT: Having now looked for images of him, I found your picture. Result ! Edited 19 December , 2017 by neverforget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knotty Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 NF Done the same but didn’t link picture as being same chap Nice one UG a very “obscure” person to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 (edited) Yes that's him. Born into the aristocracy, served in the Russian Imperial army during the GW, Red Army officer, tortured and murdered by UJ. He developed the theory of Deep Operation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_operation EDIT - I meant to add that he was taught French by de Gaulle when they were PoWs together at Fort IX at Ingolstadt in 1917. Edited 19 December , 2017 by Uncle George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fattyowls Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 1 hour ago, Uncle George said: Yes that's him. Born into the aristocracy, served in the Russian Imperial army during the GW, Red Army officer, tortured and murdered by UJ. He developed the theory of Deep Operation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_operation Good post uncle; by bitter irony one of the men who I wondered that it might be was that lovable scamp Lavrentry Beria. While searching I came upon a picture of him with Stalin's daughter Svetlana on his knee with uncle Joe in the background; it is chilling in the extreme. Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 Whilst on the subject of undesirables: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle George Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 49 minutes ago, neverforget said: Whilst on the subject of undesirables: He looks Irish to me. Is he Irish? If so, is he Michael Keogh ("The Man Who Saved Hitler)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverforget Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 8 minutes ago, Uncle George said: He looks Irish to me. Is he Irish? If so, is he Michael Keogh ("The Man Who Saved Hitler)? He's a German. Seen here wearing a rope necktie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durham dave Posted 19 December , 2017 Share Posted 19 December , 2017 7766 Julius Strecher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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