Beerhunter Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 nevertheless every officer captured with .455 revolver ammunition would have been carrying unjacketed lead rounds. There weren't nowt else. Correct. Not until the Second World War and the Mk.VI round. Which, IIRC, was down to the Germans still objecting to unjacketed rounds. (Which also resulted in the .380 MK.II.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastSurrey Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 Lechmere Thomas was interviewed in the 1970s, about his Great War experiences. He had arrived at the Front with 9th East Surrey, 24th Division, aged 18, at a time of intense action at Delville Wood, at the very beginning of September 1916. He went on to distinguish him as a trench raider and won the M.C. twice before being wounded on 21 or 22 March 1918. What people believed at the time, e.g. about the Germans and British ammunition, can be as interesting and almost as important as what was true! Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 Not Webley, ( Edit ) and not British .303 ' Dum Dums ' but rather French 8mm Lebel "Balle D" Dum Dum rounds, which the German propaganda post card accuses the French of using. In the left bottom corner of the card, it says 'Erklärung umstehend', which means 'Explanation (or 'Key') on reverse' .... so could you pl post a pic of the other side of the card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashire Fusilier Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 In the left bottom corner of the card, it says 'Erklärung umstehend', which means 'Explanation (or 'Key') on reverse' .... so could you pl post a pic of the other side of the card. SG, Unfortunately, I only have a scan of the front of the card. It would, be interesting to know what was also on the reverse ? Regards, LF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 I believe this is the reverse of the card. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 I believe this is the reverse of the card. Chris It says that No. 4 is a "steel jacketed bullet with a lead core, holed at the top to allow the wound to be enlarged and aggravated through tearing of the lead core, the so-called dum-dum bullet." Is that really a French Lebel bullet, or a transplanted 303 Mk.IV or V? Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 No idea It also appears to say (according to my schoolboy German) that the package shown at No.13 is the original French packaging for round numbered No.4, the Dum-Dum so.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 9 June , 2014 Share Posted 9 June , 2014 Round No.4 is not a British .303 inch Mark IV or V. It is a French 8mm Gallery Practice M.1906 The hollow point was designed to reduce the aerodynamics and hence the range of the bullet. It was probably captured on a French training range and has nothing to do with Dum Dum" properties. The package label certainly says "Balle Model 190?" which would agree with the M.1906. It does not say "Balle D" which all the other rounds are. Picture No.12 gives a better view of the bullet. Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 10 June , 2014 Share Posted 10 June , 2014 What people believed at the time, e.g. about the Germans and British ammunition, can be as interesting and almost as important as what was true! Indeed it is - but to discuss it, you gotta know which is which! Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spedini Posted 12 June , 2014 Share Posted 12 June , 2014 This is how it looks like.l would not like to stand in the way! Fidde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalyback Posted 14 June , 2014 Share Posted 14 June , 2014 Not any, Scaly. Expanding rounds are normally used in animal control, and it is considered humane to do so. The British 1991 Deer Act specifies that expanding ammunition must be used. It is an offence to shoot deer in UK with ammunition which does not expand. Thank you SD. Never had the chance to shot at wild game. Apart from one unlucky peasent that landed on seven tunnel range. Sorry for the late reply. Did the Germans actually dispute this with netural powers as they did with other matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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