Marcin FELEDZIAK Infantry Regiment 171

[Martin Feledziak]

Greetings Daniel.

It is amazing what can be found with a little digging.

I was hoping to turn up a photograph for Herman but the task was too difficult for me. ( Unless he is on the below group )

I know it was a thoroughly unpleasant time for the soldiers of the great war and I am sure they would not like us poking around

BUT

we should all know what they went through.

And it is not a case of "We should not Forget" as I never knew any of this in the first place.

Many nations of the world fighting in some huge remote forest.

This is well worth a read... an 11 page report .

127th Infantry, Company K History

This is part of the Company leaving for the Argonne from the above PDF

[JWK]

I know it was a thoroughly unpleasant time for the soldiers of the great war and I am sure they would not like us poking around

I, on the other hand, am sure that they're laughing their heads off, wherever they are, watching us bending this way and that trying to find any info on them.

"Left! Left! No!! The óther left!! Arrrgghhh!!!"

"Don't you think we should send them some kind of clue?"

"Nah, maybe later. It's way too much fun watching them struggle"

JW

[Martin Feledziak]

Rittmeister (Cavalry captain) Freiherr von Schlotheim, hurried to the hill south-east of Romagne, to orientate themselves from there.

Then suddenly an enemy airplane appeared, flying at a height of only 100 mtrs. It circled over the area of the stationary regiment a few times, and flies on.

Shortly thereafter a grenade comes flying down, and strikes not far from the observing officers.

JW

Back to the 28th September 1918 and a little more "Poking about"

A Cavalry Captain ?

There are three entries in the Verlustlisten and one of the reports comes from page 12 of an undated entry. I am not sure if either is the man who "hurried to the hill" from the IR136 History.

Heinrich appears to have died in 1914.

http://des.genealogy.net/eingabe-verlustlisten/search/index

http://adelsmatrikel.de/ADEL//getperson.php?personID=I874817S&tree=tree1

[JWK]

There's also a Rittmeister Kerstan Freiherr von Schlotheim:

http://www.schlossarchiv.de/TNG//getperson.php?personID=I875503S&tree=tree1

https://www.geni.com/people/Kerstan-Hans-Freiherr-von-Schlotheim/6000000034228091014

and there's Max, who's a Captain, and there's a general of the infantry, and several more I'd imagine.

The undated entry in the Verlustlisten is List nr 1 which was not dated.

Dates of issue are mentioned from list 20 (11 sept 1914).

http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Verlustlisten_Erster_Weltkrieg/Ausgaben

[Martin Feledziak]

Greetings JW

how disappointing I thought he was going to be an easy person to identify.

Now it would seem that Barons are "ten a penny" in the the Imperial WW1 German empire.

and it stands to reason that there would be a number of Gentlemen from the tradition of horse handling.

so the name must come from :-

Schlotheim in the Unstrut-Hainich district, in Thuringia, Germany. It is situated 14 km east of Mulhouse.

[AliceF]

Hi,

Well I got a reply from genealogy.net, which administrates the database of the Verlustenliste for WW1. The Verlustenliste is not finished, the data entry is continuing. Regarding information about the regiments: some regiments are finished and some not (but hopefully will be). However I did not ask about the secret lists; do not think the person I contacted would have known. That would indeed be very interesting to have access to those. So I assume the database of the Verlustenliste will only be updated with the existing information on regiments available from the “normal” paper version.

It is a pity that Anton Feledziak regiment was not mentioned at his death certificate. Authorities were really not very helpful on this matter.

Christine

[Martin Feledziak]

Hi,

Well I got a reply from genealogy.net, which administrates the database of the Verlustenliste for WW1. The Verlustenliste is not finished, the data entry is continuing. Regarding information about the regiments: some regiments are finished and some not (but hopefully will be). However I did not ask about the secret lists; do not think the person I contacted would have known. That would indeed be very interesting to have access to those. So I assume the database of the Verlustenliste will only be updated with the existing information on regiments available from the “normal” paper version.

It is a pity that Anton Feledziak regiment was not mentioned at his death certificate. Authorities were really not very helpful on this matter.

Christine

Hi Christine,

Thank you for that information. Perhaps some missing reports will turn up. I will always be appreciative of those volunteers who started transcribing the millions of names and making it possible for us to search them.

I am sure there will be more revelations to come.

Martin

[Martin Feledziak]

A brief search on the web has turned up an official IR171 - drinking vessel.

I imagine a fair amount of beer has been quaffed from it.

[Martin Feledziak]

Staring down the barrel

10.5cm leichte Feldhaubitze 98/09

This is my unusual view of the artillery piece currently parked in the square at Montfaucon Argonne

[pat62]

sorry my english

he is very very bad
my grandfather was jacob feledziak
i live in france in pas de calais
my city :bruay la buissiere 62700
my grand father live in haillicourt and died in haillicourt

[pat62]

[Martin Feledziak]

Salutations Cousin.

Quel plaisir de vous entendre .
Je suis désolé que je suis pauvre avec la langue française .
Je l'utilise un traducteur qui peut ne pas fonctionner correctement .

Ce qui suit est une image de Jacob prise de la photo de mariage de Marie Feledziak .

Pensez-vous que ceci est votre grand-père ?

Martin.

Greetings Cousin.

How nice to hear from you.

I am sorry that I am poor with French Language.

I use a translator which may not work correctly.

The above is a picture of Jacob taken from the wedding picture of Marie Feledziak.

Do you think that this is your grand Father ?

[pat62]

yes its my grandfather and my grand mother.
I own pictures but I do not know how to put them on the site

you have an email address so I can send you pictures

[pat62]

No sorry I was unable to photos
I have to go see you soon

[Martin Feledziak]

Well that is very good news Cousin.

Here is a part of our tree.

I will send you an e-mail address via the message switch system

Martin

[ph0ebus]

Wow!!!

[Stebie9173]

As the film quote goes: "Build it and they will come...."

They meant something other than a family tree of course, but the result is the same!

Steve.

[Martin Feledziak]

The internet is superb for little surprises like these.

and this

"The great war forum" is an incredible tool for research.

You never know when someone will type a question.

Which thread it will drop on.

Martin

[pat62]

hello martin my grandfather died June 5, 1954 has 19h
6 purple street

my father told me he had died in his bathroom
my grandmother died in 1975 December 2 to Natural Death houdain same address

My grandfather worked in the German coal mines
when war broke out.
he was forcibly enlisted in the German army

my grand father was wounded on the Russian front 14-18.
he was hit by a shell and he kept in his body bursts (Shrapnel)

I have not had the chance to know my grandparents
I was born September 29, 1972

my father said his father did not speak much of the war, his mother either
apparently my grandmother was also active in the resistance in 39-45

and marie feledziak .

I would send you to other photo that connection to your mailbox.
.

martin you have done a remarkable job.
I am pleased to participate with the little I know.


patrick.

[Martin Feledziak]

With thanks to Patrick for the photograph of Jacob Feledziak

He was my Grand Fathers older Brother and both of them survived the wars.

They were from small Polish Villages:

Buchwalde, Koschmin was in Pogorzela (Kozmin) catholic parish which included villages: Bielawy, Cegielnia Głuchowska, Cegielnia Pogorzelicka, Dobrapomoc, Elżbietkowo (Elisenhof), Felicyanowo, Głuchowo, Gumieniec, Łukaszewo, Pogorzela,Taczanowo (Buchwald)

Buchwald was a farm belonging to Pogorzela, now gone

There are two VL entries for Jacob Feledziak

Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 11.862: Feledziak Jakob (Buchwald) 3 April 1916 - Lightly Wounded

http://des.genealogy...ch/show/3228067

Verlustlisten 1. Weltkrieg, page 13.141: Feledziak Jakob (Buchwalde, Koschmin) 28 July 1916 - Badly Wounded

http://des.genealogy...ch/show/4003260

I have puzzled over these entries particularly when the reports have him listed with:-

April 1916 - Reserve Infanterie Regiment No 61

July 1916 - Reserve Jäger Battalion No 2

However I have now seen that both units were part of the 36th Reserve Division. So injured in April and after a short period of convalescence

he gets returned to Division but to the Jäger to make up their numbers. Then in July he receives a serious wound which ends his war ( ironically perhaps saves his life too !!)

36th Reserve Division

The order of battle of the 36th Reserve Division on mobilization was as follows

• 69.Reserve-Infanterie-Brigade
  • Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 21
  • Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 61
  • Reserve-Jäger-Bataillon Nr. 2

[Martin Feledziak]

Jacob Feledziak was 20 years old in 1906. It would have been a requirement for him to report for service at that time.

This means he would have completed his legal military service and acquired reserve status several years before the outbreak of war.
Therefore his photograph in the post above may not necessarily show him with either of the two units he was linked to when he was called back for service.

Sadly we do not have all of this particular photograph but obviously there could be a complete image somewhere. One thing for sure is that the carved woodwork looks impressive.
enquiries to be continued.

If I was to guess I would think he was originally posted to IR61.

[AOK4]

Hello,

The April 1916 notification is a correction from the notification in December 1914! See: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/1269064

He was wounded at some point in the second half of November 1914 according to the Verlustliste (visible here on the previous page: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/1084325).

Whether he would have doing his service in IR 61 is very much uncertain. Active and reserve regiments did not always correlate in the German Army...

Jan

[Martin Feledziak]

Well found Jan

I don't know how you found that report. Particularly with 2 letters missing out of his surname. I have never seen it before.

The first link

I assume these are the places where the unit was fighting. There are hundreds of casualties.

and Jacob appears at the end of Kompagnie 9 casualties.

I could not get the 2nd link to work.

Thanks very much.

[AOK4]

Since the entry from April 1916 mentioned it was a correction, I started searching a bit. I found him when looking for all entries beginning with "fel".

(when the VL mentions something between brackets and "nicht ...", that means it is a correction, so you should then start looking for the original entry)

[Martin Feledziak]

He was wounded at some point in the second half of November 1914 according to the Verlustliste (visible here on the previous page: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/1084325).

Jan,

I am unable to find the information on the end of this link.

I am getting a little confused now, perhaps the restored broken link will clear it up.

Thanks Martin