TheCount Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 First post and I have little or no knowledge of regiments. I am trying to track down the WW1 regiment of the two soldiers. I believe Soldier1 is King's Liverpool Regiment. Soldier2 I cannnot quite make out the badge. Any help much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spconnolly007 Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 No.1 would agree KLR No.2 looks like 7th City of London badge? Look left for an example Regards Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 1. KLR, agree with Shiny Seventh. 2. Notice that the hutments photo is by a Waterloo photographer which would exclude 7th Londons as they weren't in Lancashire to best of my knowledge. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (similar pattern badge) were at Oswestry then West Lancs so are a real possibility and the Royal Munster Fusiliers embarked for Mudros via Liverpool so cannot be completely discounted. RNF* were all over the north but obviously tended towards the east, again cannot be discarded. Any chance of a close up of badge or shoulder title ? Suddery * Royal Northumberland Fusiliers - all three fusilier badges I've quoted are similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 1. KLR, agree with Shiny Seventh. 2. Notice that the hutments photo is by a Waterloo photographer which would exclude 7th Londons as they weren't in Lancashire to best of my knowledge. Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers (similar pattern badge) were at Oswestry in West Lancs so are a real possibility and the Royal Munster Fusiliers embarked for Munros via Liverpool so cannot be completely discounted. RNF* were all over the north but obviously tended towards the east, again cannot be discarded. Any chance of a close up of badge or shoulder title ? Suddery * Royal Northumberland Fusiliers - all three fusilier badges I've quoted are similar. The second photo could also be Royal Welsh Fusiliers--possibly? or more likely Northumberland Fusiliers(without the Royal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Oswestry is a fair march from West Lancs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 The second photo could also be Royal Welsh Fusiliers--possibly? or more likely Northumberland Fusiliers(without the Royal) Quite right. Northumberland Fusiliers, my mistake. I felt flames of RWF were in a tighter more upright flare but agree, shouldn't be discounted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Oswestry is a fair march from West Lancs... Sorry, must stop watching Olympics while typing. Meant Oswestry then West Lancs. Have corrected in edit and am grateful for the gentle nature of the correction. Suddery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Broomfield Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Not knowing much about Up North, I assumed the Waterloo photographer would have taken the LSWR from SE1 to a hutment camp in the Surrey area to photograph a local London unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 5 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Thanks for all your replies. I have rescanned the photo and concentrated on the badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 5 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Oh and the shoulder detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 100% RWFusiliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Not knowing much about Up North, Ably demonstrated 100% RWFusiliers Yup, agree. 3rd (Reserve) Battalion ? Suddery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Yup, agree. 3rd (Reserve) Battalion ? Suddery I really wouldn't like to say which battalion--unless you can tell? I think that the shoulder title is fairly standard RWF? but then I am not an expert on such things!! Not knowing much about Up North, I assumed the Waterloo photographer would have taken the LSWR from SE1 to a hutment camp in the Surrey area to photograph a local London unit. I believe that Waterloo is also an area of Liverpool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 As we say say here, it is up the line. Outside the city, in what is now the borough of Sefton. Near Bootle. (ducks to avoid brickbats from those in Waterloo, Crosby etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 I really wouldn't like to say which battalion--unless you can tell? I think that the shoulder title is fairly standard RWF? but then I am not an expert on such things!! Per Brig James 'British Regiments', 3rd Reserve Battalion of RWF were at Litherland, Liverpool from May 1915 to Nov 1917. Litherland borders Waterloo, again in Liverpool. Waterloo,London, is a station in Lambeth. I apologise if I'm overly prickly to Steven Broomfield's comments but I believe I'm posting in the interests of a serious forum - fun, flippancy and cynicism I enjoy but surely these are for Skindles. Suddery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 5 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Many thanks all. That's brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Per Brig James 'British Regiments', 3rd Reserve Battalion of RWF were at Litherland, Liverpool from May 1915 to Nov 1917. Litherland borders Waterloo, again in Liverpool. Waterloo,London, is a station in Lambeth. Suddery Well done!! I missed looking for this--great deduction Watson!! I don't think the LSWR made it quite this far North Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tn.drummond Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Well done!! I missed looking for this--great deduction Watson!! Mutually solved Holmes, ain't that just the point of a forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Owl Posted 5 August , 2012 Share Posted 5 August , 2012 Mutually solved Holmes, ain't that just the point of a forum ? Excellent work!! Just what I always thought too!! It seems that others have a different take on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 6 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2012 Again thanks for your replies. I notice also that the 3rd Reserve Battalion RWF were at Pembroke Dock, where there is also a "Waterloo". So I wonder which one was where the photo was taken? Any clues on the battalion, etc for the first guy? I notice that the King's Liverpool Regiment also had a reserve battalion (3rd) based at Seaforth ( not a million miles away from Litherland) and then at Pembroke Dock. Coincidence?? BTW, I think the two guys are related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 6 August , 2012 Share Posted 6 August , 2012 For what it is worth, I am toldvthat there is no Pennington, photographer, listed in a Liverpool directory dated 1914. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 6 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 6 August , 2012 I have found reference to WW1 photographs taken by a B. Pinnington, Ainsdale, which is not far away. I suspect he may have travelled around the barracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 6 August , 2012 Share Posted 6 August , 2012 Yes, Ainsdale would not feature in a Liverpool directory, but certainly in reach of Waterloo. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggers Posted 6 August , 2012 Share Posted 6 August , 2012 Three years before the outbreak of war, this family seems to provide the link, placing the Waterloo locality as the one near Liverpool - and Seaforth: "PINNINGTON, Bernard - Son - u/m - 21 - 1890 - Photographer - Seaforth, Lancs. Parents: Walter [52] and Florence [49]. And 6 siblings. 35 Lancaster Road, Ainsdale, Lancashire." D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount Posted 7 August , 2012 Author Share Posted 7 August , 2012 Thanks. That seems to settle that. Would still like to know a bit more about the other guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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