corisande Posted 30 December , 2010 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2010 Thanks for that Mark - as you know information on the Palestine Police is difficult to come by. I never really managed to pin down William Lorraine King's between the wars career. He left ADRIC in Nov 1921, and apart from his divorce nothing till he rejoins British Army in WW2, eventually being buried in Gaza in 1942. Our old friend Major Carew was certainly in Palestine Police for four years from 1922 to 1926 There does not appear to be a published list of Palestine police officers at that time. As far as I can see one has to visit St Antony's College to get the papers, they do not appear to be at NA. As the writer of that paper you refer to, notes, not much has been written about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 30 December , 2010 Share Posted 30 December , 2010 Hi, This is from The Times Regards Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 30 December , 2010 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2010 Thanks Mark The thing I would really like to find, and cannot, would be a list of the 750 men. As far as I can see the vast bulk of them are Black and Tans or ADRIC with some RIC thrown in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 31 December , 2010 Share Posted 31 December , 2010 Hi, This is what I could find in the Times & Irish Times Regards Mark 30 Aug 1921 A new Gendarmerie is being organised of 500 men, 300 mounted of whom 50 on camels, and 200 unmounted. To be employed in units not less than 25 in protection of frontiers against raids and suppressing internal disturbances Advance party for Palestine arrived at Devonport 16 March 1921 750 men from ADRIC Aux to join the Palestine Gendarmerie (Main body) Embarked on the Steamer ‘City of Oxford’ at Devonport Dockyard 12 April 1922 Advance party left some weeks before. Organised for some months before in UK. Major Andrew J W Mackenzie Palestine Police drowned in the Jordan 10 miles south of Lake Tiberias attempting to save the life of an Arab Police Inspector 16 April 1922 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘No recruiting for civilians for Palestine’2 Sept 1922 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘Apply to the Commissioner of the Civic Guard, Dublin Castle. Do not trouble about Palestine for some time’3 Feb 1923 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘Recruiting is still open. In your case the examination will be a mere matter of form. I would not advise you to staying in Palestine under the circumstances.’17 Feb 1923 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘No recruiting for Palestine.’16 June 1923 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘numbers of men returned from Palestine, and were not over pleased with their experiences.’ 14 July 1923 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘I have been informed some ex members of the RIC have returned from Palestine.’21 July 1923 Major General Sir Hugh Tudor General Officer Commanding in Palestine, has resigned his post and from April next the position will be abolished, and the British forces in the country will be placed under the command of Air Commodore Gerrard. This indicates that Palestine henceforward will be policed by the Air Force in much the same manner as Mesopotamia. 29 Feb 1924 Inspection of the Palestine Gendarmerie Major Saunders commanding section at Jaffa Gate Barracks 22 April 1925 Colonel Angus McNeill commanded the Jerusalem contingent, a complete fighting unit, with Ford transport and a small mounted detachment for work in the hills 22 April 1925 Aerodrome at Ramallah 2 Troops with red sashes and pennoned lances commanded by Colonel Bewsher 22 April 1925 The Police Force 1 April 1926 a.Palestine Police Force b.Palestine Gendarmerie: a dismounted British section and a mounted Palestinian section c.Arab Legion in Transjordan Both sections of Palestine Gendarmerie to be disbanded. 200 men of the British section and 2 officers and 250 men of the Palestinian section to be re engaged into the Palestine Police Force. Arab Legion to be disbanded and a police force created in Transjordan recruited from the Legion. The remainder of the Palestinian section will be form the a military force the called the Trans Jordan Frontier Force and will enlist the remainder of the Arab Legion. The force will be officered by serving British officers seconded from the Army or Royal Air Force. British Staff Sergeants and Sergeants will be attached from the Regular Army. Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘No vacancies at present for Palestine, and no likelihood of recruiting for a considerable period. If you write to the Secretary, Selection Board, Ministry of Finance, Cairo, you will be supplied with pamphlets of information.’ 31 July 1926 Reference in the Irish Times in the ‘Police Expert Column’ to ‘You might try for the Police forces of Mesopotamia and Palestine, which employ a number of ex RIC men. In this case apply to the Assistant Private Secretary (Appointments) Colonial Office, Whitehall, London’ 5 March 1927 Inspector R I C Broadhurst, Palestine Police Force joined Depot at Newtownards for training 15 May 1929 Lieutenant Colonel G R Foley Commander of the Palestine Police Force, visited his friends in the North recently. Formerly district inspector in the RIC.10 Aug 1929 100 men left Victoria Station for the Palestine Police via Calais and Marseille 10 Sept 1929 100 men had been recruited by the Crown Agents for the Colonies for the Palestine Police Force which was under strength. The bulk of men were under 25 and 75% had recently left the forces. Majority had served in the Brigade of Guards. They were recruited in 1 week. A one year contract rather then a two year contract. Will be paid 11 pounds a month with free barrack accommodation. Most are single and those married will not be accompanied by wives Kings Police Medal awarded to Major Alan Saunders MC, Deputy Commandant Palestine Police and Raymond Oswald Cafferata, Assistant District Superintendant, Palestine Police 25 Sept 1929 Irish Times 3 Sept 1929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 31 December , 2010 Author Share Posted 31 December , 2010 Thanks very much for all those snippets Mark. The picture is building better for me now. The interesting thing about the Palestinian police service is how little it was talked about. I have had a great deal of difficultly finding any descendants of Palestine men knowing (or willing to talk) about their ancestor's service in Palestine. As far as I can tell from looking at the figures, about 130 ADRIC men went on to join the Palestinian Police and plus about 600 ex-RIC men. In comparison to to size of the ADRIC, that is a large chunk of them going on to Palestine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 31 December , 2010 Share Posted 31 December , 2010 Hi, Some links from the Jerusalem Quarterly Regards Mark “Black and Tans” in Palestine “Black and Tans” in late Mandate Palestine “Black and Tans” in Palestine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhifle Posted 31 December , 2010 Share Posted 31 December , 2010 Hi, Just came across this. Mark PALESTINE POLICE ROLL OF HONOUR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 2 January , 2011 Author Share Posted 2 January , 2011 Thanks Mark They were certainly "hard men". Most served in WW1, followed by volunteering for Russia, some even managed to squeeze in Lithuania, then Ireland, then Palestine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLHutch Posted 10 March , 2018 Share Posted 10 March , 2018 W L King was in SA Police based in Bloemfontein from circa 1905. He enlisted there in Aug 1915. He was originally recruited as Sgt, but the CSM , A M Rankin requested relief at Bordon camp in Dec. Consequently W L king was promoted acting CSM in Dec 1915. For more details of 2 Regt SAI, B Coy suggest www.awillowinthewind.com BLH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corisande Posted 11 March , 2018 Author Share Posted 11 March , 2018 (edited) BLHutch Thank you very much for that. And I have added your info In fact I have him on another page now - click for new page - which I did when I started a new site for the ADRIC It is interesting that in the Company photo, as a CSM he looks like an NCO and in later photos as an officer, he looks like an officer! Edited 11 March , 2018 by corisande Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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