dorel341 Posted 19 April , 2010 Share Posted 19 April , 2010 First, I want to thank you for letting me into this great forum. I'm working on my ancestry and am stuck on finding what happened to an uncle of mine. I may have found him but the answer to the question I have is nowhere to be found. I need to know the name of his parent(s) to be sure it's the right one. Is there a way to find out his parents names? I only found out I had an uncle about 5 years ago when I first started on Ancestry. - Name: Harry Haywood Birth Place: Weymouth, Dorset Residence: Worksop, Notts Death Date: 7 Mar 1916 Enlistment Location: Hucknall Torkard, Notts Rank: Private Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 28313 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theater of War: Aldershot ------------ HAYWOOD, HARRY Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) Unit Text: "C" Coy. 10th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 07/03/1916 Service No: 28313 Additional information: Husband of M. M Haywood, of 16, High St., Newmilns, Ayrshire. Native of Beeston, Nottingham. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. D. 16A. Cemetery: ETAPLES MILITARY CEMETERY ------------- Thank you - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 19 April , 2010 Share Posted 19 April , 2010 Is there a way to find out his parents names? Short answer is "possibly yes" if his service file still exists (National Archives visit or Ancestry access needed) and "no" if it doesnt. What information does his marriage certificate contain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfaulder Posted 19 April , 2010 Share Posted 19 April , 2010 The marriage certificate will give the name and occupation of both fathers. With a 1916 address and a place of birth, you stand a reasonable chance of finding a small set of possibles in the 1911 Census. BTW be wary of Theatre of War = Aldershot; it is a very dangerous part of the country, but in 1914-18 was relatively placid. This data is a give-away that you are using Ancestry - it is probably wrong; Ancestry have been told of numerous errors in this data field, but so far seem to be determined to leave as is. HTH David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 19 April , 2010 Share Posted 19 April , 2010 This looks like the chap your after : HAYWOOD, Harry Llewellyn Age 15 Born in 1896 in Weymouth Dorset Occpation Helping In Nursery Gardens Living at 24 Church St, Beeston, Nottinghamshire If this is your chap, then there is something going on with the family that I cant work out :-( He's listed with 2 sisters (same surname) and 3 brothers and a sister (diffrent surname - same as parents), but parents have been married for 22 yrs - oldest child 21yrs Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 19 April , 2010 Share Posted 19 April , 2010 Harry L HAYWOOD married a Maud M Webster Basford / 7b / 353 / 2nd qtr / 1915 seems to confirm the chap above b - Haywood, Harry Llewellyn O / Weymouth / 5a / 291 / 3rd qtr / 1895 Parents are William (b Beeston, 1867) and Lilly (b Nottingham, 1869) Potter Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorel341 Posted 20 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Thank you David and John for your replies. Grant I am awed that you could find the information so quickly. Where did you find it??? Is it from the 1911 census? The first part of your reply is his mother married again in 1901. Sisters- Phoebe Frances Haywood (my mother) and Beatrice Haywood. 3 step brothers, last name Potter. His mother married in 1901 to a William Potter. I have his birth and the marriage record from Ancestry and the 1901 census. Quote-- Parents are William (b Beeston, 1867) and Lilly (b Nottingham, 1869) Potter Is the the above quote also from the 1911 census?? Dorel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Dorel, Sorry, should have welcomed you to the forum last night Yes, the quote and family info is from the 1911 the birth and marriage info is from freeBMD 1911 is down for maintence at the mo,so I cant get back to check the step sister What the parents names on his cert ? Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorel341 Posted 20 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Even with all this information it still doesn't hook my Harry with the soldier Harry. I need a record that will give me soldier Harry's parents. I've just finished looking at records in Ancestry. I found nothing I didn't have already. They were both from the same place. both born about the same time. I think maybe I should send for the marriage certificate and hope there's a first name for father Haywood that I can read. It seems I've put you to a lot of work and I'm sorry about that. I thought there might be an easier way to find out soldier Harry's parent(s) Your day is just starting and it's about 12:30 am here. I'm off to bed soon. I hope your day goes well, thanks again. I will continue reading the different threads and posts. It's very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Dorel: Welcome and I'm impressed that you are so computer literate, if I do my calculations from your mother being born around1899!! Just a suggestion, but is there anyway you can get her fathers signature part of the marriage certificate on here? A digital camera image might be enough, as we have some highly skilled Pals on here who may be able to decipher the name for you.... Just a thought... Hope we can crack it for you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David_Underdown Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Slightly off-track, but I don't know if you've looked at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp?WT.hp=Registers of Seamen's Services://http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/...'s Services for details of the father's RN service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grantowi Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Dorel. I'm 99% sure we have the right man, he's the only Harry / Henry Haywood born in that time frame in Weymouth, We have the wifes name from CWGC, which gives use the marriage date and also Llewellyn as a middle name. Lily Haywood m William Potter Nottingham / 7b / 745 / 3rd / 1901 Francis dies in Nottingham / 7b / 162 / 2nd / 1900 - aged 37 In 1891 Francis is a Ships Policeman in the RN - living at 53, Hereford Street, Portsea, Portsmouth Francis Haywood m Lily Brown Portsea / 2b / 903 / 4th / 1888 In 1881 Francis is an Able Seaman in the RN - living at 43, Mount East St, Nottingham St Mary Francis (Frank on census) parents were Alfred (b 1825, Mansfield) and Mary (nee Denby, b 1820, Mansfield) Haywood Married Mansfield / 15 / 744 / 3rd / 1845 Here the family in 1911: POTTER, William, Head, Married, 44, Working On The Local Board, born 1867 in Beeston Notts POTTER, Lily, Wife, Married 22 years, 42, Shopkeeper, born 1869 in Nottingham Notts POTTER, Amy, Daughter, Single, 17, Twisting String, born 1894 in Beeston Notts POTTER, Reginald Charles, Son, Single, 6, School, born 1905 in Beeston Notts POTTER, Thomas William, Son, 9, School, born 1902 in Beeston Notts POTTER, Harold Leslie, Son, 2, born 1909 in Beeston Notts HAYWOOD, Phoebe Francis, Daughter, 12, School, born 1899 in Lambley Notts HAYWOOD, Beatrice, Daughter, Single, 21,Blouse Machinist, born 1890 in Portsmouth Hamps HAYWOOD, Harry Llewellyn, Son, Single, 15, Helping In Nursery Gardens, born 1896 in Weymouth Dorset It looks like Mr Potter was also married before. Be nice if some one could turn up some information on Harrys Army service Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorel341 Posted 20 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Removed as it isn't needed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorel341 Posted 20 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Removed as it wasn't needed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Dorel, CWGC - Commonwealth War Grave Comission - http://www.cwgc.org/ The second part of your 1st post is from CWGC Free BMD - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Can you PM me - click on my name to left of this message, select send message - as we're getting away from WW1 now, leave this thread to Harrys war service Grant Edited - to remove my cockup (unrelated to WW1 anyway :-() Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 20 April , 2010 Share Posted 20 April , 2010 Interesting to see his wife's address is given as Newmilns, Ayrshire, which is where my family is from (with branches now in BC too!). Have you searched for Maud M Webster on Scotland's People? Newmilns was the centre of the Ayrshire lace industry. During the War production switched to mosquito nets. With Nottingham being the centre of the English lace industry, I suspect there's a lace working connection here. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantowi Posted 21 April , 2010 Share Posted 21 April , 2010 Dorel, Here a link to the Find A Grave site - http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?p...p;GRid=10894000 So you can see what the cemetry looks like, if we do find a photo of the headstone you could get it added to the site. If you click on the "leave flowers and a note" button you can leave a virtuall posey on there as well. If you click on the guys name that "Created" it (bottom left) - "International Wargraves", he might have some more information about Harry, you in turn can give him details about Harry enjoy Grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONNO Posted 21 April , 2010 Share Posted 21 April , 2010 First, I want to thank you for letting me into this great forum. I'm working on my ancestry and am stuck on finding what happened to an uncle of mine. I may have found him but the answer to the question I have is nowhere to be found. I need to know the name of his parent(s) to be sure it's the right one. Is there a way to find out his parents names? I only found out I had an uncle about 5 years ago when I first started on Ancestry. - Name: Harry Haywood Birth Place: Weymouth, Dorset Residence: Worksop, Notts Death Date: 7 Mar 1916 Enlistment Location: Hucknall Torkard, Notts Rank: Private Regiment: Sherwood Foresters (Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment) Battalion: 10th Battalion. Number: 28313 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theater of War: Aldershot ------------ HAYWOOD, HARRY Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Sherwood Foresters (Notts and Derby Regiment) Unit Text: "C" Coy. 10th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 07/03/1916 Service No: 28313 Additional information: Husband of M. M Haywood, of 16, High St., Newmilns, Ayrshire. Native of Beeston, Nottingham. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: VI. D. 16A. Cemetery: ETAPLES MILITARY CEMETERY ------------- Thank you - Can i add a little more information as i was brought up in Nottingham and Hucknall Torkard (just called Hucknall these days). As you know he served with the 10th Battalion Sherwood Foresters, "C" company. The local newspaper the Hucknall Dispatch dated 30 March 1916 shows that at one time he was living in Curtis Street in Hucknall (still there) but when enlisted in June 1915 was living at Dinnington, South Yorkshire. He crossed to France on 16 February 1916. Newspaper states that he was wounded on the 5th March and died two days later at Base Hospital. I think there is a picture of him in the local paper but not too sure. He died of wounds received on the 3rd March 1916 during the attack on the German lines near Hazebrouck. BRONNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dorel341 Posted 21 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2010 Can i add a little more information as i was brought up in Nottingham and Hucknall Torkard (just called Hucknall these days). As you know he served with the 10th Battalion Sherwood Foresters, "C" company. The local newspaper the Hucknall Dispatch dated 30 March 1916 shows that at one time he was living in Curtis Street in Hucknall (still there) but when enlisted in June 1915 was living at Dinnington, South Yorkshire. He crossed to France on 16 February 1916. Newspaper states that he was wounded on the 5th March and died two days later at Base Hospital. I think there is a picture of him in the local paper but not too sure. He died of wounds received on the 3rd March 1916 during the attack on the German lines near Hazebrouck. BRONNO. Bronno--You fella's sure can be helpful. I found the Hucknall Dispatch by Googling. I can't see anywhere where I can get information like you have. Can you give me a link? Do I maybe need to send them an email? How did you get it so quickly? It's after 2 am here and I must get to bed. Bye for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorel341 Posted 21 April , 2010 Author Share Posted 21 April , 2010 Interesting to see his wife's address is given as Newmilns, Ayrshire, which is where my family is from (with branches now in BC too!). Have you searched for Maud M Webster on Scotland's People? Newmilns was the centre of the Ayrshire lace industry. During the War production switched to mosquito nets. With Nottingham being the centre of the English lace industry, I suspect there's a lace working connection here. Cheers, Mark Mark--I haven't tried Scotland. I only have her name, not much to go on. I'm off to bed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinBattle Posted 21 April , 2010 Share Posted 21 April , 2010 Hi, late in on this, been out enjoying the no fly zone and up to Bletchley Park. Sorry if my post seemed condescending, it was meant as a compliment!!! Looks like William Haywood as the fathers name and Thomas Brown's occupation looks like engine driver to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONNO Posted 21 April , 2010 Share Posted 21 April , 2010 Bronno--You fella's sure can be helpful. I found the Hucknall Dispatch by Googling. I can't see anywhere where I can get information like you have. Can you give me a link? Do I maybe need to send them an email? How did you get it so quickly? It's after 2 am here and I must get to bed. Bye for now. I'm afraid its all on microfiche in the Hucknall Library which is located next to the Parish Church they have the Hucknall Dispatch on file. Try contacting them as they are quite helpful. I found his name on the War Memorial at Hucknall. BRONNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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