michaeldr Posted 14 March , 2010 Share Posted 14 March , 2010 If you look very carefully beneath the Austrian Emperor's left leg, you can see the round edge of the pot lid curving back towards where Willie's (or someone's) rump must be. And what you do not see, are Ferdinand's feet! Because he is not standing on the pot lid, but is behind. Edit: Having seen that this post is now on page two, I will add the cartoon again so as to make the job a liitle easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 14 March , 2010 Share Posted 14 March , 2010 I think perhaps he is standing on the rear of the lid whoever he is. He is not greatly different in scale to the others, so if he was stood behind we would not be able to see him. Perhaps he is on a ladder? There is a Punch web site, perhaps they would know. Makes for a bit of 'light' debate anyway. Regards the five powers, thats what it states on page 5 here http://www.cambridgestudents.org.uk/subjec...70_w06_qp_2.pdf but there might be other information available. I'm no expert on Great War personalities illustrated in cartoon form so will stand back now. Interesting cartoon. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see if any further info. turns up. Cheers, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 There is a Punch web site, perhaps they would know... ... Regards the five powers, thats what it states on page 5 here http://www.cambridgestudents.org.uk/subjec...70_w06_qp_2.pdf In this particular instance I am not sure that I place much store in what this Cambridge site says on the matter However, contacting Punch sounds like a good idea for anyone wishing to take this further regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centurion Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 There is a Punch web site, perhaps they would know... ... Regards the five powers, thats what it states on page 5 here http://www.cambridgestudents.org.uk/subjec...70_w06_qp_2.pdf In this particular instance I am not sure that I place much store in what this Cambridge site says on the matter However, contacting Punch sounds like a good idea for anyone wishing to take this further regards Michael Since Punch went out of business some years ago this might be difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardog Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 http://www.punch.co.uk/ The cartoon is held on this site, but I guess its doubtfull they hold related historical information. Regards, Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ororkep Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 The artist and style is that of 'Craven Hill' (Mr Raven-Hill) from Punch. You can just see the end 'Hill' of his signature bottom right of the pot. His signature always looks like it begins with a 'C' but its just a flourish of the 'R' Rgds Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 16 March , 2010 Share Posted 16 March , 2010 I go for: Bottom left General Ivanoff of Russia who had an impressive beard along those lines. Top left UK Prime Minister Asquith caricatured as John Bull. Top right Raymond Poincaré of France. Bottom Right Franz Joseph I of Austria-Hungary. Centre Helmuth von Moltke the Younger representing Germany. I doubt that a cartoon of this nature would have appeared in Punch without a representation of France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 17 March , 2010 Share Posted 17 March , 2010 Top left UK Prime Minister Asquith caricatured as John Bull. Remembering the pictures of LLoyd George and Churchill in their top hats, maybe it was an exageration of Asquith's normal dress, but it fits well with the caricature of John Bull. Just as General Ivanoff could easily be morphed into the caricature Russian bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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