john gregory Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 I thought I would start a new thread on the men wearing them, here is a Notts and Derby one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john gregory Posted 4 March , 2010 Author Share Posted 4 March , 2010 Another Notts and Derby, it's not very clear on the scan but there is a T 8 on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONNO Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 Hi John, here is one from my collection with the single 'T', i will sort a few pictures out of some being worn. BRONNO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick D Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 I don't know anything about these slip on titles, but I'm suspicious about sets of DLI titles that appear on Ebay fairly regularily. They always seem to new and perfect considering their age. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 I believe that most of these, despite looking pristine, are actually genuine = the result of some surplus stockpile somewhere! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick D Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 Peter, Do you have a photograph of such a shoulder title ? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocemma Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 Mick, I believe most of the mint stock came from Hobson's when they closed their factory in Tooley Street and relocated to Thundersley. There were large quantities of some Regimental titles. A lot of their sample stock also came onto the market at that time, still tied in bundles. Lots of badge dealers had them at the time. I have a few of these cards with samples still attached. The originals are quite distinctive in terms of the materials used and modern made copies should be easy to spot. Not least the quality of the thread used for the embroidery. Fortunately there are plenty of low priced originals available to compare. The scarcer unit titles, some of which I'm pleased to say have been posted by contributors here, are changing hands for quite high prices now. Could you post an image of the examples you are concerned about Mick. I'm sure we have enough experience between us to decide if they are right or not. Kind regards Tocemma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick D Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 I don't have any, I often wish I knew what to look for as I'd like to put together a DLI specific display. I see the slip on ones from time to time, but as I have previously said, I thought they were too good to be true ! Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 Mick In the 80s a very large stock of original, unissued slip-ons turned up. DLI was prominent, as also were Suffolk, Border, Hants, RGA, RE, and to a lesser extent RFA, RAMC, RF, TC and KOYLI. The Hants (at one time the commonest) and TCs seem to have disappeared, which seemed impossible at the time but it shows how the market absorbs everything eventually. Anyway, the DLI titles are all fine, in fact most slip-ons are, though TC have been repro'd. As far as I can tell, so far the copies are the of woven wool ones, and not the printed or woven gaberdine-type material. Regards, W. Add: Just noticed that I've repeated some of the info in TE's post - the danger of doing this after coming in at night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmsk212 Posted 4 March , 2010 Share Posted 4 March , 2010 My great grandfather in the Essex Regiment Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 5 March , 2010 Share Posted 5 March , 2010 Do you have a photograph of such a shoulder title ? here you go! Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocemma Posted 5 March , 2010 Share Posted 5 March , 2010 The sad thing about the Hobson's stock cards was that the more esoteric the items the less people wanted them. I remember sorting through dozens of cards with small samples of Hussar and Lancer cap cords and tunic loops. They were also dozens of cards with cavalry waistbelt sash samples on. All small pieces of material, but meticulously identified and some with prices too. Lots of pre-amalgamation stuff. Very sad really, I bet an awful lot of it ended up in a skip or on a bonfire somewhere. Tocemma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 5 March , 2010 Share Posted 5 March , 2010 One of two patterns of slip-on worn by the Northumberland Fusiliers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick D Posted 5 March , 2010 Share Posted 5 March , 2010 Peter/Graham, Thanks for the images they are the type that I've seen. Are the letters on the right hand side Suffolk one a transfer or painted on ? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovetown Posted 5 March , 2010 Share Posted 5 March , 2010 Herewith a few of the less common ones on my collection (pairs omitted for space). I particularly like - albeit somewhat shagged - the cut down Bedford's one. Best wishes, GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 6 March , 2012 Share Posted 6 March , 2012 Please can some one give me chapter and verse of from when until when these slip-ons were issued? Also, I have searched in vain for a thread on coloured plain slip-ons used to denote function in the unit: runner, orderly etc. Any clues please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioneecorps Posted 6 March , 2012 Share Posted 6 March , 2012 Please can some one give me chapter and verse of from when until when these slip-ons were issued? Also, I have searched in vain for a thread on coloured plain slip-ons used to denote function in the unit: runner, orderly etc. Any clues please? Hi GRUMPY When the battle dress was introduced in March 1938, metal shoulder title were not intended to be worn on its shoulder straps, at the beginning of hosilities and as an economy measure directed towards saving metal and also as a security device, slip-on titles of khaki cloth with lettering in black thread had been introduced to be worn, not just on the Battle Dress blouse but also on the Khaki Drill jacket and the Khaki Drill Shirt. ADDED; As well as the machine stitched versions of the khaki cloth slip-on there was also a printed version of the same thing. Regards. Gerwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 7 March , 2012 Share Posted 7 March , 2012 When the battle dress was introduced in March 1938, metal shoulder title were not intended to be worn on its shoulder straps, at the beginning of hosilities and as an economy measure directed towards saving metal and also as a security device, slip-on titles of khaki cloth with lettering in black thread had been introduced to be worn, not just on the Battle Dress blouse but also on the Khaki Drill jacket and the Khaki Drill Shirt. ADDED; As well as the machine stitched versions of the khaki cloth slip-on there was also a printed version of the same thing. This isn't strictly true - it would be fairer to say that slip-on titles were re-introduced at this time. From post 9 of the following thread: http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=88885&st=0 To add to what Graham has posted the slip-on worsted shoulder titles were introduced in early 1916 (actual pattern sealing started in late 1915) to replace the brass titles (as far as I can tell all units had pattern seealed examples but not sure all had manufactured examples). These never really were popular at least from them actually replacing the brass titles, howver photos of these things in use in France are fairly common. As introduced they slipped on the shoulder tab. However at least by Feb 1917 the BEF issued a GRO 2137 (13.2.17) which stated that all worsted shoulder titles will in future be worn on the sleeve just below the point of the shoulder. This GRO may have been preceded by an ACI--but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 7 March , 2012 Share Posted 7 March , 2012 Some of mine and Notts and Derby variants shown in previous threads by Grovetown and Bronno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 Some of mine and Notts and Derby variants shown in previous threads by Grovetown and Bronno. Oh!, may we please share the others that you have, as a Forum asset, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioneecorps Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 This isn't strictly true - it would be fairer to say that slip-on titles were re-introduced at this time. From post 9 of the following thread: http://1914-1918.inv...opic=88885&st=0 Hi Andrew I always wait in anticipation , to what I'm going get, you have let me off lightly . on the subject of books, I did a search on military uniforms, whilst looking, I came accross this book, is the price, a misprint. Badge Backings and Special Embellishments of the British Army Regards. Gerwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark holden Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 Border Regt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 This isn't strictly true - it would be fairer to say that slip-on titles were re-introduced at this time. From post 9 of the following thread: http://1914-1918.inv...opic=88885&st=0 Hi Andrew I always wait in anticipation , to what I'm going get, you have let me off lightly . on the subject of books, I did a search on military uniforms, whilst looking, I came accross this book, is the price, a misprint. Badge Backings and Special Embellishments of the British Army Regards. Gerwyn [/quote The book is a good one, and out of print but .............. Was there anything you want me to look-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pioneecorps Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 The book is a good one, and out of print but .............. Was there anything you want me to look-up? Hi GRUMPY Thank you for your kind offer Mate, I bought one new, cost then £10.95, I will now look after it. Cheers. Gerwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 8 March , 2012 Share Posted 8 March , 2012 The book is a good one, and out of print but .............. Was there anything you want me to look-up? Hi GRUMPY Thank you for your kind offer Mate, I bought one new, cost then £10.95, I will now look after it. Cheers. Gerwyn I think I will put mine in the safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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