Julie w Posted 31 October , 2007 Share Posted 31 October , 2007 HI,I AM TRYING TO FIND A JOHN NEWPORT,WHO SERVED ON HMS CARNARVON.HIS MARRIAGE CERT GIVES THE SHIP AS HIS ADDRESS IN 1915.HOW CAN I TRACE HIM,I HAVE TRIED NA BUT SEEM TO BE GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES.HE WAS BORN IN GLOUCESTSHIRE 1890 ,HE WAS IN RMLI THATS ALL I KNOW,HOPING SOMEONE WILL POINT ME IN RIGHT DIRECTION,HE SURVIVED THE WAR THANKS JULIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 31 October , 2007 Share Posted 31 October , 2007 Hello, Julie, There is a J Newman, Plymouth Division RMLI, born in Horsley, near Stroud, Gloucs. 29 May 1890. Could this be he? If so, papers pertaining to him are at the Fleet Air Arm Museum and the NA have his service record. He was de-mobbed after WW1 and re-enlisted in 1920 for pension. Do you have a service (register) number for him? That would confirm. H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 31 October , 2007 Share Posted 31 October , 2007 Royal Marines records are not online. The National Archives leaflets relating to the RM are confusing, the easiest way to find a WWI RMLI or RMA man is using the alphabetical medal roll ADM171/ 170. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 3 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2007 Royal Marines records are not online. The National Archives leaflets relating to the RM are confusing, the easiest way to find a WWI RMLI or RMA man is using the alphabetical medal roll ADM171/ 170. thanks for the reply,i will have another look at na for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 3 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2007 Hello, Julie, There is a J Newman, Plymouth Division RMLI, born in Horsley, near Stroud, Gloucs. 29 May 1890. Could this be he? If so, papers pertaining to him are at the Fleet Air Arm Museum and the NA have his service record. He was de-mobbed after WW1 and re-enlisted in 1920 for pension. Do you have a service (register) number for him? That would confirm. H2 thanks H2 ,i havnt a service number for himmi will try your suggestions,thanks again julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 6 November , 2007 Share Posted 6 November , 2007 John Newport, born 29 May 1890 Horsley, Nailsworth, Gloucester.. Enlisted at Newport, Monmouthshire on 14 April 1908. Trade: Collier Division: Plymouth Number: 14464 Demobbed: 15 November 1919 Source: Register of Service (TNA ADM 159/155) Married: 10 August 1915 whilst serving on HMS Carnarvon Re-enlisted: 24 September 1920 Division: Plymouth Number: 20824 Discharged: 5 April 1930 Reported Dead: 5 May 1936 Source: Register of Service (TNA ADM 159/167) He was awarded the 14-15 Star, War and Victory Medals for service in WW1 (TNA ADM 171/170) and the Long Service and Good Conduct (LSGC) medal on 6 April 1924. Other material with regard to his service will be held either at the Royal Fleet Air Arm Museum (his pre 1919 service) or the Ministry of Defence (for his post 1920 service or his whole service). Their contact details are as follows: Fleet Air Arm Museum Records and Research Centre Box D6, RNAS Yeovilton Ilchester BA22 8HT Tel: 01935 840565 Email: research@fleetairarm.com Website: http://www.fleetairarm.com DPS(N)2 Building 1/152 Victory View PP36, HMNB Portsmouth PO1 3PX Regards, Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 7 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 7 November , 2007 hi,bootneck thank you very much,your info will make his very old daughter very happy,well done your a star,many thanks julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 7 November , 2007 Share Posted 7 November , 2007 Other material with regard to his service will be held either at the Royal Fleet Air Arm Museum (his pre 1919 service) or the Ministry of Defence (for his post 1920 service or his whole service). Not correct in this case. The FAAM will have all his papers. No point approaching the MOD as they have all been released. The FAAM papers stop, in theory, at 1925 first-enlistments but they include many re-enlistments up to 1936 and records of service stretching right through WW2 to the 1950s. This is a huge bonus for those researching Royal Marines. So much for WW2 records not having yet been released! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 8 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 8 November , 2007 thanks horatio for your help,i still cant find him in the national archives i must be searching the wrong way,thanks again julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 8 November , 2007 Share Posted 8 November , 2007 Julie, Are you trying to search for him on-line? Give up because there is nothing available on-line. You have to go to Kew in person. H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 H2 Thank you for the info on the FAAM and MOD, as so far I have not got round to paying the FAAM a visit as most of my research is usually 18th & 19th century marines. Cheers Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 9 November , 2007 Share Posted 9 November , 2007 Julie, ADM 157/155 and 167 are available on microfilm at TNA. Some times trying to read the bottom right or left hand corners can be difficult as they have been well handled over time and are quite 'grimey' and not always film well. The originals are stored off sight so can take a couple of days. According to ADM 157/155 John Newport was transferred to the Royal Marines Reserve and served in Defensively Armed Merchent Ships (DAMS) between October 1917 and September 1919. There are a number of threads about this on the forum. regards, Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 10 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 November , 2007 thanks again bootneck and horatio2, i passed your info on to his daughter,she was thrilled because we were expecting to have to wait a year to gain any info from the FAAM. so thanks very much both of you julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 14 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2007 Julie, ADM 157/155 and 167 are available on microfilm at TNA. Some times trying to read the bottom right or left hand corners can be difficult as they have been well handled over time and are quite 'grimey' and not always film well. The originals are stored off sight so can take a couple of days. According to ADM 157/155 John Newport was transferred to the Royal Marines Reserve and served in Defensively Armed Merchent Ships (DAMS) between October 1917 and September 1919. There are a number of threads about this on the forum. regards, Bootneck hi ,bootneck did john newport have any prefixes to his service numbers ,its so i can send for his details for his daughter from the faam,thanks julie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 14 November , 2007 Share Posted 14 November , 2007 Julie, His original register number was Plymouth/14464 but when he re-enlisted in 1920 he was given a new number Plymouth/20824. You should ask the FAAM to search under both numbers as his papers may be split between both. H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 14 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2007 THANKS H2,I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF HIS DAUGHTER FOR ALL YOUR QUICK REPLIES,ITS JUST DOWN TO WAITING FOR RECORDS NOW ,ABOUT A YEAR ,REGARDS JULIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 14 November , 2007 Share Posted 14 November , 2007 Julie, You will have a reply much more quickly. The year quoted on the FAAM web-site is for people who wish to museum to undertake research for them. It will not take long to copy these papers and you will have them soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie w Posted 14 November , 2007 Author Share Posted 14 November , 2007 WOW THATS GREAT NEWS THANKS AGAIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 15 November , 2007 Share Posted 15 November , 2007 Julie Sorry I forgot the Divisional prefix. H2, Are you by any chance an RHMS member? regards Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 15 November , 2007 Share Posted 15 November , 2007 H2, I just noticed I got mixed up. I meant RMHS. Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 15 November , 2007 Share Posted 15 November , 2007 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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