jack b Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 hi! i am trying to research my ancester william brown he was chief stoker on hms pembroke,service no 154094 died 15/11/1918 can't find reference for a ship only naval base in chatham, if he was at chatham how would he have died? please can anyone help, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Given the date, there is every possibility that he died of influenza. Serving at Chatham and buried in Kent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack b Posted 16 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Given the date, there is every possibility that he died of influenza. Serving at Chatham and buried in Kent. hi,would he have served on a ship,or would he have been permanatly based at chatham thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Do you have his full service record? £3.50 from the NA :- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1 If his record just says "PEMBROKE" he was shore-based. If PEMBROKE is followed by another name in brackets (e.g. PEMBROKE ( NONSUCH)) then that is the ship he served in, with PEMBROKE as its accounting base. His CWGC entry seems to indicate that he was shore-based when he died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack b Posted 16 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Do you have his full service record? £3.50 from the NA :- http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1 If his record just says "PEMBROKE" he was shore-based. If PEMBROKE is followed by another name in brackets (e.g. PEMBROKE ( NONSUCH)) then that is the ship he served in, with PEMBROKE as its accounting base. His CWGC entry seems to indicate that he was shore-based when he died. thanx very much you have been a great help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Jack, There was more than one Pembroke, Pembroke II was RNAS Eastchurch Sheppy Kent Pembroke III was in London Pembroke IV was at Chatham/Great Yarmouth/Nore Pembroke V was at Dover/London Pembroke VI was at Chatham/Lerwick Pembroke VII was at Grimsby Pembroke VIII was at Humber Pembroke X was at Lowestoft Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 There was also a naval hospital at Chatham. According to the online records, Brown entered the Royal Navy in 1890 so he might have served in some of the colonial wars as well as WWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 16 May , 2007 Share Posted 16 May , 2007 Jack, details from his Admiralty death record: BROWN, WILLIAM, CHIEF STOKER, 154094, PEMBROKE, 15-Nov-18, ILLNESS. It would appear that he he died in HMS Pembroke hospital. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack b Posted 17 May , 2007 Author Share Posted 17 May , 2007 Jack, details from his Admiralty death record: BROWN, WILLIAM, CHIEF STOKER, 154094, PEMBROKE, 15-Nov-18, ILLNESS. It would appear that he he died in HMS Pembroke hospital. Best wishes David it's possible he did die of influenza ? cheers jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 It would appear that he he died in HMS Pembroke hospital. I assume this would be the old Royal Naval Hospital that is now known as the (stretched to exasperation) Medway Hospital, actually in Gillingham rather than Chatham. (There was an army hospital in Chatham called Fort Pitt). As a result sailors were actually buried in Woodlands Road cemetery Gillingham, where they had a special plot. Fort Pitt cemetery in Chatham is primarily all army burials (I think there are some Royal Marines in there too). Regards, Jon S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 I understand that the original Melville Hospital was in Chatham, but am not sure where the replacement was, however; I have seen it referred to as Chatham too. As far as I know there is not a stone frigate name associated with Gillingham, so the someone in the hospital would still have their pay, mail and other admin handled by one of the Pembroke administration centres. Btw Jack the service register can be downloaded for free at Kew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 The Melville Hospital was on Dockyard Road Chatham, and became a Royal Marines Barracks in 1905 when the Royal Naval Hospital Chatham was built on Windmill Road Gillingham. http://www.medway.nhs.uk/History/Administr...tive_block.html Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 Eee them were the days -- a clock tower for £100, and it was from money left over from another budget! That must have been some plastering budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 Just to put it into perspective, if you walked out of Pembroke by the front gate you was in Chatham by the back gate Gillingham and the South gate Brompton. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 Just to put it into perspective, if you walked out of Pembroke by the front gate you was in Chatham by the back gate Gillingham and the South gate Brompton. Regards Charles ... but it was/is still a bloody long walk from the dockyard gates to Windmill Road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 17 May , 2007 Share Posted 17 May , 2007 No pub at the hospital only ever went in an ambulance. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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