NRP.HKP Posted 18 March , 2007 Share Posted 18 March , 2007 Can anyone please confirm whether Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur of 57th Wilde's Rifles FF was either Wounded/KIA or DoW at 2nd Ypres April 1915.My Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 18 March , 2007 Share Posted 18 March , 2007 Have you seen the war diary "By the time we got to the bottom of the slope, Captain Radford had been hit, Lieutenant Bainbridge temporarily knocked out by a "stink" shell and the Commanding Officer (Major Williams) was hit a little further on. Captain Mahon had been hit on the knee early in the attack but carried on till the end of the attack. The attack continued to within about 80 yards of the German line where Major Duhan, Captain Mackie and Captain Banks were all killed. Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur, Jemedar Ujager Singh, Jemedar Hayat Khan, Jemedar Kirpa Singh, Subedar Badawa Singh were killed. This left Captain Mahon the only officer, Lieutenant Deedes being on the left with his machine guns trying to open fire from French Farm." from S Bainbridge Lieutenant and Adjutant 57th Rifles 77 4 May 1915 see http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/archivedgr...pdf/source5.pdf [pages 6 & 7] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRP.HKP Posted 18 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2007 Have you seen the war diary "By the time we got to the bottom of the slope, Captain Radford had been hit, Lieutenant Bainbridge temporarily knocked out by a "stink" shell and the Commanding Officer (Major Williams) was hit a little further on. Captain Mahon had been hit on the knee early in the attack but carried on till the end of the attack. The attack continued to within about 80 yards of the German line where Major Duhan, Captain Mackie and Captain Banks were all killed. Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur, Jemedar Ujager Singh, Jemedar Hayat Khan, Jemedar Kirpa Singh, Subedar Badawa Singh were killed. This left Captain Mahon the only officer, Lieutenant Deedes being on the left with his machine guns trying to open fire from French Farm." from S Bainbridge Lieutenant and Adjutant 57th Rifles 77 4 May 1915 see http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/archivedgr...pdf/source5.pdf [pages 6 & 7] Michael My most gratefull thanks for your prompt reply which completely answers my question.Caistor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRP.HKP Posted 19 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Michael My most gratefull thanks for your prompt reply which completely answers my question.Caistor. Michael Further to yr previous,unless my eyes deceive me the manuscript(original) War Diary has subject as ' wounded ', vide - Sub F K Bahdr,Jem Hayat Khan,Jem Khala Khan were wounded here .....'.whilst the typed transcription,which follows the manuscript.reads as per your quote.I cannot find subject in CWGC.Any views ? Too serious an issue to blame the fog of war,I think this was the Mir Dost VC action.Regards,Caistor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 My apologies; finding the handwriting difficult for my eyes, I read only the transcript On re-reading both, I agree that there is a difference I have also now checked the CWGC and cannot find a match for your man I can only suggest that you try to contact the National Archives to see if they have an explanation for the transcription difference and/or if they can supply other documentation against which to check this regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldstreamer Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Major Duhan was killed on the 26th April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Here is his CWGC entry... Name: FATEH-JANG Nationality: Indian Rank: Subadar Regiment/Service: 57th Wilde's Rifles (Frontier Force) Date of Death: 27/04/1915 Additional information: Husband of Nur Begum, of Mator Village, Kahuta, Rawalpindi. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. H. 22. Cemetery: VLAMERTINGHE MILITARY CEMETERY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Thanks Terry, The hyphen makes all the difference [Without it 5 different chaps come-up] Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 quote: I think this was the Mir Dost VC action. Yes it was. the comlete article includes a photograph of Dost see http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/archivedgr...he_top/main.htm regards Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Still exploring this further If you use the second link [that in my post #9 above] and then re-check the handwritten document as shown there you will see that there is a page of the handwritten diary which has not been transcribed Page 65 Once again it is difficult to read but I believe that it shows your chap listed as Died of Wounds All-in-all, the NA could have done better with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 19 March , 2007 Share Posted 19 March , 2007 the missing page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRP.HKP Posted 19 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2007 the missing page Again my most gratefull thanks to all for their help in this matter. For info - Fateh Jang was awarded the IoM Cl 2 vide \Gaz 29095 pub 9.3.1915,also the IGS bar Waz 94-5,China 1900,IGS NWF 1908 and the DD 1911,plus presumably his WW1 entitlement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRP.HKP Posted 19 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2007 Thanks Terry, The hyphen makes all the difference [Without it 5 different chaps come-up] Michael My Thanks,usefull tip for all............. Caistor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alfromeo Posted 4 April , 2007 Share Posted 4 April , 2007 Caistor, what is your interest in Fateh Jang Bahadur? I collect to Indian army and have his BWM. Best Rgds. Alfromeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRP.HKP Posted 4 April , 2007 Author Share Posted 4 April , 2007 Caistor, what is your interest in Fateh Jang Bahadur? I collect to Indian army and have his BWM. Best Rgds. Alfromeo I understand his other medals are with DNW pending auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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