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Can anyone please confirm whether Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur of 57th Wilde's Rifles FF was either Wounded/KIA or DoW at 2nd Ypres April 1915.My Thanks.

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Have you seen the war diary

"By the time we got to the bottom of the slope, Captain Radford had been hit, Lieutenant Bainbridge temporarily knocked out by a "stink" shell and the Commanding Officer (Major Williams) was hit a little further on. Captain Mahon had been hit on the knee early in the attack but carried on till the end of the attack. The attack continued to within about 80 yards of the German line where Major Duhan, Captain Mackie and Captain Banks were all killed. Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur, Jemedar Ujager Singh, Jemedar Hayat Khan, Jemedar Kirpa Singh, Subedar Badawa Singh were killed. This left Captain Mahon the only officer, Lieutenant Deedes being on the left with his machine guns trying to open fire from French Farm."

from S Bainbridge

Lieutenant and Adjutant

57th Rifles 77

4 May 1915

see http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/archivedgr...pdf/source5.pdf

[pages 6 & 7]

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Have you seen the war diary

"By the time we got to the bottom of the slope, Captain Radford had been hit, Lieutenant Bainbridge temporarily knocked out by a "stink" shell and the Commanding Officer (Major Williams) was hit a little further on. Captain Mahon had been hit on the knee early in the attack but carried on till the end of the attack. The attack continued to within about 80 yards of the German line where Major Duhan, Captain Mackie and Captain Banks were all killed. Subedar Fateh Jang Bahadur, Jemedar Ujager Singh, Jemedar Hayat Khan, Jemedar Kirpa Singh, Subedar Badawa Singh were killed. This left Captain Mahon the only officer, Lieutenant Deedes being on the left with his machine guns trying to open fire from French Farm."

from S Bainbridge

Lieutenant and Adjutant

57th Rifles 77

4 May 1915

see http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/archivedgr...pdf/source5.pdf

[pages 6 & 7]

Michael My most gratefull thanks for your prompt reply which completely answers my question.Caistor.

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Michael My most gratefull thanks for your prompt reply which completely answers my question.Caistor.

Michael

Further to yr previous,unless my eyes deceive me the manuscript(original) War Diary has subject as ' wounded ', vide - Sub F K Bahdr,Jem Hayat Khan,Jem Khala Khan were wounded here .....'.whilst the typed transcription,which follows the manuscript.reads as per your quote.I cannot find subject in CWGC.Any views ? Too serious an issue to blame the fog of war,I think this was the Mir Dost VC action.Regards,Caistor.

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My apologies;

finding the handwriting difficult for my eyes, I read only the transcript

On re-reading both, I agree that there is a difference

I have also now checked the CWGC and cannot find a match for your man

I can only suggest that you try to contact the National Archives

to see if they have an explanation for the transcription difference

and/or if they can supply other documentation against which to check this

regards

Michael

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Major Duhan was killed on the 26th April

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Here is his CWGC entry...

Name: FATEH-JANG

Nationality: Indian

Rank: Subadar

Regiment/Service: 57th Wilde's Rifles (Frontier Force)

Date of Death: 27/04/1915

Additional information: Husband of Nur Begum, of Mator Village, Kahuta, Rawalpindi.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: I. H. 22.

Cemetery: VLAMERTINGHE MILITARY CEMETERY

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Still exploring this further

If you use the second link [that in my post #9 above]

and then re-check the handwritten document as shown there

you will see that there is a page of the handwritten diary which has not been transcribed

Page 65

Once again it is difficult to read

but I believe that it shows your chap listed as Died of Wounds

All-in-all, the NA could have done better with this

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the missing page

57thWildesWarDiaryApril1915.jpg

Again my most gratefull thanks to all for their help in this matter.

For info - Fateh Jang was awarded the IoM Cl 2 vide \Gaz 29095 pub 9.3.1915,also the IGS bar Waz 94-5,China 1900,IGS NWF 1908 and the DD 1911,plus presumably his WW1 entitlement

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Thanks Terry,

The hyphen makes all the difference

[Without it 5 different chaps come-up]

Michael

My Thanks,usefull tip for all............. Caistor

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Guest Alfromeo

Caistor, what is your interest in Fateh Jang Bahadur? I collect to Indian army and have his BWM.

Best Rgds.

Alfromeo

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Caistor, what is your interest in Fateh Jang Bahadur? I collect to Indian army and have his BWM.

Best Rgds.

Alfromeo

I understand his other medals are with DNW pending auction.

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