Shipwrights and Carpenter

[colinfoot]

Can anyone help me decipher and understand the ratings of a relative who served as a shipwright throughout the First World War. In his service before the war he is shown as

Car crew

Shipwright

Shipwright QS

Shipwright NT or NI

Leading Shipwright

Car Mate

Then into the Coastguard as

DIV or WW Car (with a Seaman Gunner Torpedo Man sub rating)

When the war came along he was

Shipwright I

Shipwright II

Is there a progression going on here?

Hope someone can help - Regards Colin

[joseph]

Colin,

Money is the answer and quite astute at that, technically a ‘Leading Carpenters Crew’ is senior to a ‘Shipwright’ but by pay a Leading Carpenters Crew got 2/8 and a Shipwright 4/-.

Chief Carpenter’s Mate (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Carpenter’s Mate (Relative Rank = Petty Officer)

Leading Shipwright (O S) (Relative Rank = Petty Officer 2nd Class)

Shipwright (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Leading Carpenter’s Crew (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Carpenter’s Crew (Relative Rank = Able Rate)

Boy Shipwright (Relative Rank = Boy)

(O.S.) denotes Old System a rating ordered to die out after 1st October 1907.

From 26th October 1920, Reorganisation of Shipwrights and Artisans;

Shipwright, 5th Class 4th Class, (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Acting Shipwright, 4th Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 3rd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 2nd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 1st Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Chief Shipwright 2nd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Chief Shipwright 1st Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Basic Qualification for Shipwright

Over 21, or, if advanced from Boy Shipwright over 18 ; Leading Carpenter's Crew and Carpenter's Crew, with not less than 6 years' service from date of entry, are eligible to be examined for and advanced to Shipwright if vacancies exist.

Able to read and write fairly. Must possess knowledge of wood and iron shipbuilding and be capable of using the ordinary tools for each efficiently; must know the different parts of a boat and how to repair them.

[colinfoot]

Colin,

Money is the answer and quite astute at that, technically a ‘Leading Carpenters Crew’ is senior to a ‘Shipwright’ but by pay a Leading Carpenters Crew got 2/8 and a Shipwright 4/-.

Chief Carpenter’s Mate (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Carpenter’s Mate (Relative Rank = Petty Officer)

Leading Shipwright (O S) (Relative Rank = Petty Officer 2nd Class)

Shipwright (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Leading Carpenter’s Crew (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Carpenter’s Crew (Relative Rank = Able Rate)

Boy Shipwright (Relative Rank = Boy)

(O.S.) denotes Old System a rating ordered to die out after 1st October 1907.

From 26th October 1920, Reorganisation of Shipwrights and Artisans;

Shipwright, 5th Class 4th Class, (Relative Rank = Leading Rate)

Acting Shipwright, 4th Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 3rd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 2nd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Shipwright 1st Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Chief Shipwright 2nd Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Chief Shipwright 1st Class, (Relative Rank = Chief Petty Officer)

Basic Qualification for Shipwright

Over 21, or, if advanced from Boy Shipwright over 18 ; Leading Carpenter's Crew and Carpenter's Crew, with not less than 6 years' service from date of entry, are eligible to be examined for and advanced to Shipwright if vacancies exist.

Able to read and write fairly. Must possess knowledge of wood and iron shipbuilding and be capable of using the ordinary tools for each efficiently; must know the different parts of a boat and how to repair them.

It will take a while to assimilate all you have told me but thank you very much for all you have provided