tom compton Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 dear pals on the 28th of september 1917 german submarine uc6 was sunk by bombs from seaplane .anyone know anything about this ie place pilot type of plane i wonder if this was a one off or did it happen more than once . tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvis Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 1 reference via the internet shows UC6 sunk by the RNAS: - 28 september 1917 : UC6, Thames est. British plane nr 8676. http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/archive/...php/t-8987.html I am not sure as to the validity of this discussion but perhaps an RNAS buff can provide further info on aircraft nr 8676 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatio2 Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 From Sturtivant & Page:- 8676 Curtiss H.8 'Large America' Flying Boat. Interestingly, this one aircraft also sank UC1 on 27 Jul 17, sank UB20 on 29 Jul 17, and bombed other u-boats on 3 Sep 17 and 22 Dec 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvis Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 From Sturtivant & Page:- 8676 Curtiss H.8 'Large America' Flying Boat. Interestingly, this one aircraft also sank UC1 on 27 Jul 17, sank UB20 on 29 Jul 17, and bombed other u-boats on 3 Sep 17 and 22 Dec 17. From the same link as my previous reply we find discussion regarding UB20 : - 29 July 1917 : UB20 near Flemish coast by British planes 8676 and 8862, however the U-boat was already missing the day before, and damage to the wreck is typical for a mine, not of another kind of bomb. The British planes talked about a UC-type instead of an UB type and difference is quite obvious, as the UC type was a minelaying sub with a very typical bow. Still looking for more on the 8676 aircraft. Jarvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvis Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 A couple more references found : UC-6 was bombed and sunk by Major B.D. Hobbs in seaplane No. 8676 on September 27, '17 Also, there appears to be a book "The Spider Web" by Squadron Leader T.D. Hallam qouted as 'a good reference book regarding the RNAS' response to the uboat threat' It outlines the end of 3 uboats (U-C1, U-B20, U-C6) and 2 Zepps (L 43 & L 53). I have not come across this book personally so can't recommend it has the answers .... but the references are beginning to sound promising for your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarvis Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 And the pilot ....... Flight Lieutenant Basil Deacon HOBBS DSO, Bar to DSC I believe there are threads on the Forum itself should you wish to Search further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom compton Posted 25 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 25 February , 2007 well done pals i knew you would come up with the answers .now i will be looking for photos of the sub and plane thanks again. tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 From a post I made in War in the air: Aircraft '9859 Wight "converted" tractor biplane seaplane 250-hp Eagle7 engine, delivered October 1917; Cherbourg by 12 October 17; petrol leak, forced landing in the Channel damaged under carriage on take off, landed Bembridge 30/11/17 ([pilot] Flight Sub Lieutenant CS Mossop); Dropped 100 pound (lb) bomb on Uboat 12 N of Cape La Hague 21/12/17 (FSL T Eyre); Dropped 100 lb bomb on white Uboat 5005N 0100W 4/1/18 (FSL WBE Powell); Dropped 65 lb & 2x100 lb bombs on Uboat 5012N 0050W 25/1/18 (Flight Commander CW Scott & AM2 W Ward); became 414/5 Flights Cherbourg 25/5/1918 (in 243 Squadron from 20/8/18); Tailplane collapsed on take off crashed Port-en-Bessin 12/8/18 (FSL CS Mossop & Lieutenant RE Horton both killed).' '9860 Wight seaplane delivered Cherbourg (via Calshot) 24/7/17; Dropped 2x100 lb bombs on UB32, sunk, 25miles NE of Cherbourg 18/8/17 (FSL CS Mossop awarded DSC & AM Ingledew awarded DSM); Dropped 3x100 lb bombs on Uboat 25m NE of Cherbourg 4/9/17 (FSL CS Mossop); Dropped 2 bombs on Uboat 7m S of St Catherine's then Engine failure, forced landing, abandoned, sank 6/12/17 (FSL CS Mossop and another picked up by HMS P32.' Quoted from Ray Sturtivant & Gordon Page Royal Navy Aircraft Serials and Numbers (Air Britain, Tonbridge. 1992) That is just 2 aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 The Spider's Web was just one patrol pattern in the North Sea; the RNAS actually had air fields around the UK and in France with units engaged in anti-submarine warfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 Tom, There's lots of outdated U-boat-loss information out there. The basic problemis that the original sinking attributions (and there are a number to seaplanes) all came from the Royal Navy -- which assigned credit immediately postwar without consulting German records! When you actually see when U-boats sailed it becomes readily apparently that these submarines were not sunk as described. UC 6 was sunk in an explosive net on September 27, 1917 at 51°30'N, 01°34'E -- the Royal Navy recovered debris at the site some months later. The wreck has also been found by a local diver. UB20 mined off the Flanders coast on July 28, 1917 (51°21'N, 02°38'E). She's been found, positively identified and is comely dived. UC 1 is still listed as missing but she most certainly was not sunk on July 25 (or 27) 1917. She disappeared while after sailing on July 18, 1917 on a mission to lay mines off Calais. That doesn't take a week. More like two days at most. The only seaplane sinking claim that's currently regarded as being plausible is UB32 bombed and sunk on September 22, 1917 at 51°45'N, 02°05'E. However, even in that case there are some issues (lack of wreck being one). Hope to have more later this yeare after we sort through some additional information. Best wishes, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom compton Posted 25 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 25 February , 2007 well thats upset the apple cart .so what is a explosive net .tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 Basically a net with mines in it. Sub fouls the net, and draws the mines in on itself... Best wishes, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom compton Posted 26 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2007 hello michael were the nets fixed to the sea bed or were they towed in the path of a submarine . tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 26 February , 2007 Share Posted 26 February , 2007 Tom, I believe free floating -- most certainly not towed. Best wishes, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom compton Posted 26 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 26 February , 2007 thanks michael tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelS Posted 19 August , 2023 Share Posted 19 August , 2023 A bit late to the party: A recent piece from an Isle of Wight news site https://www.islandecho.co.uk/isle-of-wight-built-seaplane-was-first-to-sink-enemy-sumarine-in-action/ I can't comment on the accuracy of what's given, but nevertheless some nice images. NigelS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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