quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Hey guy, newbie here, but i just dug out of my closet a post card my grandmother had given me framed. it is written and signed in german by Manfred Von Richthofen. aka the Red Baron and post marked april 27, 1917. I am going to get it translated tomorrow. the post card is in mint condition. i was wondering where I would have it appraised and certified and what something like this is worth. thanks for any help Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy1918 Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Scott, The last signed von Richthofen card I saw was going for 750 euros. That was a postcard dealer that had that one. There is a chap named Bob Gardner at aeroclocks.com who might be willing to give you some advice. Freddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Hazell_Great_Grandson Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Scott, The last signed von Richthofen card I saw was going for 750 euros. That was a postcard dealer that had that one. There is a chap named Bob Gardner at aeroclocks.com who might be willing to give you some advice. Freddy He has a Richthofen autograph on his site now for £ 1680 / $ 3200 + pp. Roland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2007 He has a Richthofen autograph on his site now for £ 1680 / $ 3200 + pp. Roland. thanks guys but that site doesnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Scott, If you post a scan of the card, I will translate it for you. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2007 i couldnt scan it because its behind glass on both sides but I took a few pics. the front is dated April 26 1917 and the back is stamped and postmarked April 27 1917 I appreciate all your help. i guess i was hoping it is worth more than a few thousand US dollars so maybe I'll keep it unless I figure out who it is being sent to which may up the value Scott another shot of the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2007 and a shot of the back. can you read where its going? you can see that it is stamped in Germany April 27 1917 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2007 this card was also with it and I believe the card was written describing him before WWII because it refers to WWI as "THE WORLD WAR" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 The front: Im Felde, 26.4.17 Vielen Dank für die freundl. Zeilen Ihr Frhr Richthofen In the Field, 26.4.17 Many thanks for your kind message. Yours ... Freiherr (Baron) Richthofen The words translated as 'kind message' literally mean 'friendly lines'. The back: Feldpostaddresse des Absenders Jagdstaffel 11 Deutsche Feldpost Nr. 404 Feldpostkorrespondenzkarte An Anschüler Wiktor Wien XVI Friedmanngasse Nr. 42/5 Sender's Field Post Address Jagdstaffel 11 German Field Post No. 404 Field Post Correspondence Card To Wiktor Anschüler Friedmanngasse No. 42, Apartment 5 Vienna 16 Always grateful to other sharp-eyed pals for tweaks to the transcription/translation. It seems the Rittmeister had assistants to help him with his correspondence, as the message on the front and the address on the back appear to be in two different hands. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 20 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2007 The front: Im Felde, 26.4.17 Vielen Dank für die freundl. Zeilen Ihr Frh Richthofen In the Field, 26.4.17 Many thanks for your kind message. Yours ... Freiherr (Baron) Richthofen The words translated as 'kind message' literally mean 'friendly lines'. The back: Feldpostaddresse des Absenders Jagdstaffel 11 Deutsche Feldpost Nr. 404 Feldpostkorrespondenzkarte An Auschüler Wiktor Wien XVI Friedmanngasse Nr. 42/5 Sender's Field Post Address Jagdstaffel 11 German Field Post No. 404 Field Post Correspondence Card To Wiktor Anschüler Friedmanngasse No. 42, Apartment 5 Vienna 16 Always grateful to other sharp-eyed pals for tweaks to the transcription/translation. It seems the Rittmeister had assistants to help him with his correspondence, as the message on the front and the address on the back appear to be in two different hands. Mick Thanks so much for the translation. now im trying to figure out where to go from here Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Hazell_Great_Grandson Posted 21 February , 2007 Share Posted 21 February , 2007 Whatever its final value is you have a cracking piece of history. Keep it if you can. Best of luck. Roland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 21 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 21 February , 2007 well im shipping it off to have the signature authenticated and ive sent copies of it to Sothebys auctioneers to see if they are interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter__m Posted 21 February , 2007 Share Posted 21 February , 2007 Don't sell this! Think of it as capital... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 22 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 22 February , 2007 no im having sothebys appraise it so i know what to insure it for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Armstrong Custer Posted 22 February , 2007 Share Posted 22 February , 2007 What's the provenance of your postcard, quicktoy - ie where and from whom did your grandmother obtain it, and where in turn did they obtain it? Ciao, GAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 23 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 23 February , 2007 What's the provenance of your postcard, quicktoy - ie where and from whom did your grandmother obtain it, and where in turn did they obtain it? Ciao, GAC i have not a clue, my grandmother just had a ton of stuff like this. her father, my great grandfather was at one time the number one abraham lincoln memorabilia collector in the world, so its just the kind of stuff that doesnt surprise me that she had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Armstrong Custer Posted 23 February , 2007 Share Posted 23 February , 2007 A pity - a known provenance can go a long way to establishing a credible authenticity - and sometimes the fact of who an item has previously been owned by enhances its value. Sotheby's will certainly ask you about provenance. Ciao, GAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 24 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 24 February , 2007 the positiveis sothebys has sold a bunch of stuff for my family in the past including fabrege eggs ( not actually eggs but figurines made by fabrege) , civil wat memorabilia, jewelry from the 17 and 1800s so they will no its a reputable piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicktoy Posted 10 September , 2007 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Well, I went ahead and listed it to see if it gets any bites http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...s=tab%3DSelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59165 Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 WW1 Nazi memorabilia??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyHollinger Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 We're being had ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcmartin Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 In light of his translation etc. being used almost verbatim, I wonder if Siege Gunner is up for a commission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59165 Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Still no mention of providence in the 'ad'.V steep price,bet it doesn't shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Tiger Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 Call me cynical but I always get suspicious when someone with low posts ask questions about an item & the answers get cut & pasted direct into ebay. Bet we don't see Quicktoy again. At least not until he want's our info for his next sale. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Blonde Posted 10 September , 2007 Share Posted 10 September , 2007 He should be banned from the G. W. Forum. I am not anti-ebay, as I do a bit myself but I am anti-thankless muppets who can't even get the description bit right!!! after getting free info here Connaught Stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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