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John_Hartley

Can you beat this one (for tearing yer hair out):-

Luke and his brother Thomas are remembered on the Stockport War Memorial.

Luke's name is spelt McCumsky.

Thomas' name is spelt McCamskey

CWGC has Luke's name as McCumesky.

And has Thomas' as McCumsky

1901 Census has the family as McCummaskey

Local BMD records have Luke as McCumansky

and Thomas as McCumasky

This pair have done my head in :(

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ypres1418

I can see why too, how did you manage to find all the mispells? now i am goping to have to give the CWGC another try for one of mine.

Mandy <_<

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stiletto_33853

Strewth John,

No wonder they have done your head in, nothing like making a job easy.

Andy

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HarryBettsMCDCM

Hope your not allergic to Asprin...! :)

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Steven Broomfield

Think how their mum must have felt when the school reports came home.

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alliekiwi

It could have been worse, John. Imagine if there had been Mac versions, as well!

Allie

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John_Hartley
how did you manage to find all the mispells?

It was just the process of research. It seemed every time I looked at a new reference source there was a new spelling. It was just a matter of wading through and convincing myself it was the right guy- not for nothing did the Stockport Express once describe me as the "war detective"

Think how their mum must have felt when the school reports came home.

And, herein lies the matter I think. My guess is that this was a time in the family's life when it was illiterate. As such, they wouldnt have known how to spell their own name. The different spellings then relate to the fact that various officials have interpreted it phonetically.

I have come across a number of examples of different spelling within the same close (ish) family - although never before with brothers. Just by way of further indication, I've recently been looking at a number of soldiers' marriage certificates. I was surprised to see that, whilst all the men could sign their own names, about 25% of the women could not. An interesting sociological contrast withn the obvious thirst for knowledge and education from many of the soldiers (who are often reported the press to be attenders at evening classes and educational Sunday schools).

John

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John_Hartley
Imagine if there had been Mac versions, as well!

Allie

I report only the tip of the iceberg.

There is also, for example, Peter Maccumisky, born Stockport 1895 (but isnt one of "my lads"). I am just grateful that I am not researching this name in Liverpool (try a FreeBMD search on "mcCum*", for example).

John

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Max

John

The census returns for my family from 1851 to 1901 list their surname as one of the following Dealtry/Daltry/Daultry/Daughtry/Dawtry/Daughtery/Dowtery

Andy

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Bernard_Lewis

I blame the Education Secretary...

Bernard

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J T Gray

I have some Layzells in my family tree. There is a chap in the Essex Family History Society who has a card index of baptisms, marriages and burials in the parish registers - and he has over twenty different spellings!

The bind moggles...

Adrian

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Steven Broomfield

Mrs B's maiden name was Cruwys. Mrs B's dad is into genealogy. Hours of fun.

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squirrel

My family surname comes up in various places as Watkins, Atkins, Nutting, Nugent, Nutkin, Nitkin etc.

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Le_Treport

Coupled with trying to interpret handwriting through the ages, it at least passes the time!

Regards

Alasdair/Alastair/Alister/Aleister/Alisdair/Alasdhair..... (etc. ad infinitum)

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Muerrisch

Madame Grumpy maiden name variants:

Hardes, Hards, Hardress, Hardies, Hardys.

No known Mac or McHardes, nor O'Hardes or Llewellyn-Hardes.

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Steve MC
On Wed Jan 31 2007 at 22:48, John_Hartley said:

Can you beat this one (for tearing yer hair out):-

Luke and his brother Thomas are remembered on the Stockport War Memorial.

Luke's name is spelt McCumsky.

Thomas' name is spelt McCamskey

CWGC has Luke's name as McCumesky.

And has Thomas' as McCumsky

1901 Census has the family as McCummaskey

Local BMD records have Luke as McCumansky

and Thomas as McCumasky

This pair have done my head in :(

As a McCumesky I spent my whole life spelling out my name to people only for them to spell it wrong in any correspondance 

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SiegeGunner

Welcome to the forum, Steve, and thanks for reviving this old thread.  Good to know that one of the variations John Hartley found matches your spelling ... but is it also the correct spelling of John's two men?  Good also to be reminded of two of the contributors to this 2007 thread, Max and Alliekiwi, both missing in action since 2016.

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Dai Bach y Sowldiwr
On 01/02/2007 at 16:47, Steven Broomfield said:

Mrs B's maiden name was Cruwys. Mrs B's dad is into genealogy.

 

Then he must know of the (in)famous Crwys Hotel in Cardiff.

Located on Crwys Road, not far from the junction with Fanny Street.

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