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I would be glad of some help in identifying these soldiers.

I am pretty sure that the young man sitting on the right of the senior member is Claude Robbie.

It's most likely to be somewhere in London, 1915 or before.

Thanks,

Tony

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Here is a close up of the cap and badge.

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Sorry, but I don't think that I can get it any better as I don't have the original.

Cheers,

Tony

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I am certainly not an expert here but it looks to me as though these chaps are Royal Marines? (Perhaps RMLI although I cannot make out the horn on the badges)

I am sure someone will be able to tell you for certain. I think changes in the badges may help someone in the know date the picture too.

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Not on the MIC - naval , a marine perhaps ?

Well 2 of us think so

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Just noticed - looks like the bayonet of the chap kneeling front left (as we look) of the group still has its curved quillon which would tend to suggest earlier rather than later.

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They look like RMLI. Could your man be the following? :-

Chatham/18792; ROBBIE, CC; Enlisted RMLI 24/08/1914; Discharged invalided; D.o.b. 15/08/1896; P.o.b. MARYLEBONE

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Thanks anyway 4thGordons.

It's a start!

Cheers,

Tony

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They look like RMLI. Could your man be the following? :-

Chatham/18792; ROBBIE, CC; Enlisted RMLI 24/08/1914; Discharged invalided; D.o.b. 15/08/1896; P.o.b. MARYLEBONE

Great stuff Horatio2! Marylebone looks very good indeed.

Thanks,

Tony

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As worn by the lads in the photo, one R.M.L.I. cap badge.

Graham.

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As worn by the lads in the photo, one R.M.L.I. cap badge.

Graham.

Nice work Graham!

My thanks also to Coldstreamer.

Cheers,

Tony

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They look like RMLI. Could your man be the following? :-

Chatham/18792; ROBBIE, CC; Enlisted RMLI 24/08/1914; Discharged invalided; D.o.b. 15/08/1896; P.o.b. MARYLEBONE

Hi Horatio2,

I feel pretty certain that this is the man that I was looking for.

I take it that Chatham would have been the name of his regiment.

I wonder if you would happen to have any more information on him?

There does not seem to be anything in the National Archives, Documents On Line and I had thought that he may have been entitled to medals.

Does that mean that he had not served outside of Britain?

Is there nothing given on when he would have been discharged?

Thanks for your help,

Tony

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Here is another photo of him from Christmas 1915.

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And another from Christmas 1918 so it does seem that he served the war out.

Sorry! I should have found these before.

Thanks,

Tony

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Hi Horatio2,

I feel pretty certain that this is the man that I was looking for.

I take it that Chatham would have been the name of his regiment.

I wonder if you would happen to have any more information on him?

There does not seem to be anything in the National Archives, Documents On Line and I had thought that he may have been entitled to medals.

Does that mean that he had not served outside of Britain?

Is there nothing given on when he would have been discharged?

Thanks for your help,

Tony

Tony,

The 'Chatham' register number means that he was in Chatham Division of the RMLI (the other divisions being Portsmouth and Plymouth. He enlisted right at the start of the war on a 12-year engagement (short service was not available when he volunteered). He could have been invalided as the result of combat injuries (perhaps with the Royal Naval Division) or because of ill-health and it could have been long after the war. His engagement, in the normal course, would not have expired until 1926.

There is nothing available on-line at the NA for RMLI. Naval personnel do not have MICs - you have to view their medal rolls at the NA. You also need to visit there to get a copy of his Record of Service - normally a single sheet. The Fleet Air Arm Museum definitely has his original attestation and probably several other papers including Conduct Record Sheets, discharge details and more. I do not know why he was invalided from the service but details of that should also be at the FAAM.

See http://www.fleetairarm.com/pages/research/archivep1.htm for what might also be there on him. Well worth checking.

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Just to expand: there were 4 RMLI Battalions in the original Royal naval Division: Chatham, Deal, Portsmouth and Plymouth. After the battles of June and July, 1915, the 4 battalions were merged into the 1st RM Bn (Chatham and Deal), and 2nd RM Bn (Plymouth and Portsmouth).

The blue uniform in the original photo was the uniform worn at the beginning of the war; certainly in Antwerp in late '14; subsequently (on the Western front), they adopted army style.

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My thanks here to Horatio2 and Steven for this well explained additional information.

Hopefully an e-mail to the Fleet Air Arm Museum will bring some results.

Cheers,

Tony

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