ragamuffin Posted 24 November , 2006 Share Posted 24 November , 2006 Could someone please help me. I have a photo in my hand of a crew that is around WW1 era. On the capband is HMS Attention. I have tried to research but cannot find anything about it. Has anyone any information on this vessel? I will try to post the photo later, once I try to work out how to download. Danke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted 24 November , 2006 Share Posted 24 November , 2006 Are you sure it is ATTENTION and not ATTENTIVE? HMS ATTENTIVE was an adventure class scout cruiser of 3000tons launched 24/11/1904. There was also a screw tug called ATTENDANT, a fuel ship of 1950 tons also called ATTENDANT. The tender ADDER was renamed ATTENTIVE II on 1/7/1919. There were several fishery trawlers renamed ATTENTIVEII, ATTENTIVE III etc late 1918. These are all I can find in Dittmar. Aye Malcolm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 24 November , 2006 Share Posted 24 November , 2006 Attentive II was the shore base at Dover. HMS Attention II, which appears in an Absent Voters List, is, I suspect, a spelling mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Many thanks for your reply. I have noticed under the microscope it is the Attentive. The person in question was based in Lowestoft UK. Has anyone the operations of this vessel HMS Attentive? Many thanks for you kind efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Here is a picture of the crew. Do the uniforms do with the era? Many thanks for your help Danke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 This could very well be a photo of a Trawler or Drifter crew of the Dover Patrol. They would be in the RNR(Trawler section) the Attentive was a Depot Ship/Establishment at Dover. The man front and centre looks like a Skipper. Can you determine the badges on any of the mens left arms? Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 The person in question was based in Lowestoft UK. Lowestoft was a major base for patrol/minesweeping etc operations of the Auxiliary Patrol (requisitioned trawlers, drifters and other small vessels) in WW1 and the administrative HQ for all operations of the Royal Naval Patrol Service in WW2. The RNPS Association and Museum is based there today. The photo is very small and not very clear, but the number and general appearance of the men looks about right for the crew of an armed trawler or drifter. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 One of the badges on his arm says RNP, so I gather that stands for Royal Naval Patrol? It appears to have a crown above the letters and what appears to be the number 7 under the letters. Danke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Hi, Does it look similar to this, this is the badge of an Engineman RNR(T); Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 It definately looks like a RNP, but could be a RNR, but I cannot see the bit at the end. I have looked at it very closely and it has a crown, and you are correct it is a T underneath, but no propellers. Danke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Which man has the badge you are describing? Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 The man sitting at the front on the right hand side as you look at the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Hi, I cannot find anything with just a crown until post war and that is a Regulating Petty Officer, unlikley to be on a minesweeper. Is there anything else with the crown? Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragamuffin Posted 25 November , 2006 Author Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Charles That is all there is. I have looked very closely and it is a crown with RNP written under it and then the letter T under that. Nothing else near it or around it as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 It would be nice if you could enlarge the area and post it, the photo is pre 1922 as the RNR(Trawler Section) was disbanded and became part of the RNR in 1921. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 25 November , 2006 Share Posted 25 November , 2006 Found it, he is a "Second Hand" Red Crown over RNR(T). He had to hold a Board of Trade certificate as Mate (Fishing) and served in a British steam trawler for Two years as Mate. Regards Cahrles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stapeley Posted 26 November , 2006 Share Posted 26 November , 2006 hello there , my grandfather joined the navy around 1914 until invalided out around 1920 . my father has been to kew to try and find out more but it seem his record may have been lost during bombing in 2nd ww. We believe he served on the LIGHTFOOT AND ATTENTIVE . we have a picture of him , his cap badge has EMTBD. the only actions i,ve found for the ATTENTIVE was the ZEEBRUGGE raid 1918 . it was believed he survived a long period of being in the sea ,how and when we do not know. His name was ARTHUR GENTLE . Any imformation would be helpful cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 26 November , 2006 Share Posted 26 November , 2006 Attentive had 2 battle honours for WW1 Belgian Coast 1914-1918 and Zeebrugge 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 26 November , 2006 Share Posted 26 November , 2006 You should be able to get his Mates service record at Kew: 6. Fishing Officers: Certificates The certification of skippers and mates (or second hands) of fishing vessels began in 1884, extending the system that had applied to masters and mates from 1854. The records are in: BT 129 Registers of Certificates of Competency: Skippers and Mates of Fishing Boats. The certificates are numbered 1 to 15,509 and cover the years 1880 to 1921. BT 130 Registers of Certificates of Service: Skippers and Mates of Fishing Boats. The certificates are numbered with an '0' prefix and the class contains numbers 01 to 05999 and also numbers 08000 to 08999. Numbers were allocated as follows: Certificate Number Certificate Type Series commences 01- 03000 Skippers, English from December 1883 03001 - 04888 Second Hands, English from December 1883 05001 - 05765 Skippers, English from January 1884 05800 - 05999 Skippers, Scottish from May 1907 06000 - 07561 Second Hands, English from July 1887 07600 - 07881 Second Hands, Scottish from May 1907 08000 - 08180 Skippers, Scottish from May 1907 The means of reference to these is by using the class Index to Registers of Competency and Service: Skippers and Mates of Fishing Boats (BT 138 ). Taken from the National Archives research guide http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalog...?sLeafletID=131 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylviashearer Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 Here is a picture of the crew. Do the uniforms do with the era? Many thanks for your help Danke I am very interested in the photo. My father-in-law from Orkney was in the Royal Naval Reserve & served on the Amethyst 1915-1918 and on the Attentive III from 10/11/18 to 15/9/19 where he was a leading seaman. His son (my husband) thinks he is one of the sailors on the back row as we have an other photo of him taken 4 years earlier on the Victory. Is there any way of getting a bigger photo? We have his Minesweeper Badge, his medals and his service records and I am a complete novice at writing his story. Can anyone tell me about ships logs and how I can obtain them. I am in Australia. Can someone confirm that HMS Leamington was a shore based training facility where he might have trained for minesweepers. Any information will be greatfully received from someone starting out. Regards SBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 Hello SBS and welcome to the forum. HMS Leamington is not listed as a "stone frigate" ie a shore establishment. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 Leamington was a minesweeper, one of the Aberdare (later Hunt) class. She was sold out in 1928. Best wishes, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylviashearer Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 Leamington was a minesweeper, one of the Aberdare (later Hunt) class. She was sold out in 1928. Best wishes, Michael Many thanks SBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiegeGunner Posted 6 January , 2007 Share Posted 6 January , 2007 http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/wars...sel.asp?id=8098 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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