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Remembered Today:

Does Anyone Recognise these Names


StevieB

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Amongst a group of photos belonging to H E Ranson (see previous thread) is this photo of various officers of what could possibly be 47 Sqn RFC. Written on the back are the following names:

E C Pratt

I Gullen

J A Rutherford

J D F West

C H Nic.........

G E Todd

P P..........

A G Forsyth

J K T ........

Can anyone recognise any name amongst the list and provide any background info?

H E Ranson is second left, back row. Notice how not one of them are wearing the same uniform.

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Possibles, but not that helpful:

E C Pratt

Medal card of Pratt, Edward C

Corps Regiment No Rank

Essex Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Cadet

I Gullen

???

Possibly Jan Cullen ?

J A Rutherford

Medal card of Rutherford, John Allan

Corps Regiment No Rank

Canadian Infantry 443383 Private

Royal Garrison Artillery Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant

(Commissioned 12-8-1916)

Canadian Attestation Papers

J D F West

???

C H Nic....

Medal card of Nicholls, E C H

Corps Regiment No Rank

The Queen's Regiment Second Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps and Royal Air Force Lieutenant

G E Todd

Medal card of Todd, G E

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Flying Corps Captain

Welsh Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant Colonel

A G Forsyth

???

Steve.

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Thanks Steve,

Thats a brilliant start. I've since found some info on G E Todd (Major) - he commanded No 46 Sqn in France between April/May 1916.

Steve

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Here are a few extra snippets on George Eardley Todd from my roll of Welsh Regt Officers.

This is from the Welch Regt. perspective.

Todd,G.E: Welsh Regt. serving with the R.F.C:

Lt. George Eardley Todd, to be Captain, 14.8.13., and to remain seconded.

Capt: 14.8.13:

Flying Officer R.F.C. Military Wing, was advanced to Flight Commander 1.5.14.

Major: 2.5.18:

Lt.Col: 28.1.20:

O.B.E., MID (5x) 17.2.15, 14.6.18, 30.1.19 & 5.6.19.

Legion of Honour (Chevalier) (France),

Croix de Guerre (France),

Order ofthe White Eagle of Serbia 4th Class with swords, Supplement to L.G: 5.4.19.(Lt. Col. Welsh Regt. att RFC).

Home:- Flight Commander Aug.1914- March 1915;

Sqd. Commander (T/Major) March-Sept. 1915; France:- Sept.1915 - Feb.1916;

Home:- Wing Commander (T/Lt.Col.) Feb.1916-June 1917;

Egypt & Middle East:- June 1917- Nov.1918:

Appears in the 1927AL Supplement as Lt.Col RARO (Welch Regt.), (Class II Reserve).

South African War, Cape Colony; Nov. 1901- March 1902. ORC; March 1902. Transvaal March to 31st May 1902. Queens Medal (5 clasps), 1914 Star, BWM & VM.

Dave

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Steve

I've just had a look at the index in H A Jones' Over the Balkans and South Russia - the history of No 47 Sqn RFC/RAF - and none of the officers whose names appear in your post are mentioned, except Lt Col G E Todd. Todd appears as the commander of the 16th Wing, not as a squadron officer.

Hence, I suspect that they may not have served in No 47 Sqn.

Cheers

Gareth

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The photo screams Midle East/Mediterranean. The clue may be the Bristol Scout D behind the group. 47 Sqn did operate some of these machines during its early days in Macedonia (e.g. 5603, 7029, 7030). GE Todd was a pre-war member of 2 Sqn RFC. Might the group by 16 Wing staff, which Todd was still commanding in September 1918.

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Possibles, but not that helpful:

E C Pratt

Medal card of Pratt, Edward C

Corps Regiment No Rank

Essex Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Cadet

I Gullen

???

Possibly Jan Cullen ?

J A Rutherford

Medal card of Rutherford, John Allan

Corps Regiment No Rank

Canadian Infantry 443383 Private

Royal Garrison Artillery Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant

(Commissioned 12-8-1916)

Canadian Attestation Papers

J D F West

???

C H Nic....

Medal card of Nicholls, E C H

Corps Regiment No Rank

The Queen's Regiment Second Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps and Royal Air Force Lieutenant

G E Todd

Medal card of Todd, G E

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Flying Corps Captain

Welsh Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant Colonel

A G Forsyth

???

Steve.

Possibles, but not that helpful:

E C Pratt

Medal card of Pratt, Edward C

Corps Regiment No Rank

Essex Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Cadet

I Gullen

???

Possibly Jan Cullen ?

J A Rutherford

Medal card of Rutherford, John Allan

Corps Regiment No Rank

Canadian Infantry 443383 Private

Royal Garrison Artillery Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant

(Commissioned 12-8-1916)

Canadian Attestation Papers

J D F West

???

C H Nic....

Medal card of Nicholls, E C H

Corps Regiment No Rank

The Queen's Regiment Second Lieutenant

Royal Flying Corps and Royal Air Force Lieutenant

G E Todd

Medal card of Todd, G E

Corps Regiment No Rank

Royal Flying Corps Captain

Welsh Regiment attached Royal Flying Corps Lieutenant Colonel

A G Forsyth

???

Steve.

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I have information on Lieutenant Edward Cecil Henry Edward NICHOLLS

Royal Air Force 41st Sqdn (secondary unit The Queens - Royal West Surry Regiment)

Died 20 Sepember 1918

If you are still looking for information

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Hi Stevie B,

 

Thanks for posting up this fantastic photo.

 

JDF West could be my wife's grandfather. He was in the Middlesex Regiment but transferred to the RFC and learnt to fly in Egypt in 1917-18. Would it be possible to post up the reverse of the photo to see if the names are in any order. 

 

Is there a chance that the fact that they are all in different uniforms means that this is a photo of a flying training class?

 

Regards

 

Tom

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Ray,

 

Not sure that fits with what we know about JDF West's RFC career. We are wondering whether the chap sat cross-legged on the right might be him. He enlisted in Middlesex Regt, then commissioned into the Hampshire Regiment [according to family history memories] before joining RFC. I've had a look at the cap badge of the Hampshires for WW1 and although it's not a clear photo it does seem to match up - not sure about the badges on his lapels though. Were those rank badges?

 

Regards

 

Tom

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All the identified men trained in Egypt.

Rutherford and West were involved in an accident at the SoAF Heliopolis 7.12.17

'CH N' is CH Nicholas not ECH Nicholls

'JK T' is presumably JK Trench, with 22RS Aboukir Sep 17 to Dec 17

No record of a Gullen

 

They were all together in Egypt in August 1917 through to about December

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