ftpt7 Posted 8 October , 2006 Share Posted 8 October , 2006 hello all, looking for a list of light infantry units that served in Salonica, my grandfather was involved in the conflict with one of them, not sure which so trying to narrow it down, any help would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 8 October , 2006 Share Posted 8 October , 2006 4th Rifle Brigade were there from Nov 1915. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Wills Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 as were the 7th Ox and Bucks LI, and several more. Take the link to the Long Long Trail site, and search for 10th; 22nd; 26th;27th and 28th Divisions in the Army Organisation section. 60th Division were also there from December 1916 to mid 1917. Also take a look at the Salonika Campaign Society website http://www.salonika.freeserve.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 The 2nd and 8th Battalions the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry served in Salonica. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen D Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 hello all, looking for a list of light infantry units that served in Salonica, my grandfather was involved in the conflict with one of them, not sure which so trying to narrow it down, any help would be much appreciated. Can you post his name here then we can have a better look for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David T Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 Two other LI units to serve in the Macedonian theatre of war were 2/5 and 2/9 Territorial Force Battalions, Durham Light Infantry. Both went to Salonika as garrison battalions but 2/5 DLI later served as a frontline unit altho' it didn't see too much action. David T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpt7 Posted 9 October , 2006 Author Share Posted 9 October , 2006 Can you post his name here then we can have a better look for him? James Edward Dainty, also served with the nottinghamshire constabulary from 1920-48 awarded Kings Medal for bravery. I am currently researching his military history, Salonika with as yet unknown LI unit, suffered broken leg during campaign, also malaria (not confirmed)...a work in progress, thank you all for your help and suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 9 October , 2006 Share Posted 9 October , 2006 ftpt7, On the National Archive website there's a Medal Index Card for a 43004 James E.Dainty who served in the Kings Shropshire Light Infantry, who for some reason was renumbered 48070. Could this possibly be him? Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6th Shropshires Posted 11 October , 2006 Share Posted 11 October , 2006 Hi Graham This is in reply to another thread ftpt7 posted on his/her grandfather:- I am not sure if this is the correct men you are looking for, I know the medal roll gives his name as James E. Dainty but the absent voters lists record 43004 Pte. Dainty, John Ernest, of (13 Clare's Lane, Dawley, Shropshire). The other K.S.L.I. No. 48070 is a post war number, plus there is no mention of this man being in the mounted police, although it's alway possible that he was attached to them. I do not yet know which battalion (s) he served in overseas but absent voters record him being with the 3rd Battalion, which was a training battalion and did not go overseas. Annette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickalan Posted 20 August , 2011 Share Posted 20 August , 2011 hello seniors of the great war forum my great grandfather as i understand fought in salonika i have majority of his records and have tried to put together a diary of my own but proving difficult. its all quite confusing to me working out his whereabouts in salonika (before and after also) please can you help me make some good use of this documentation i have. kind regards rickalan some details about him:- william thomas avis born 1888 prior to enlistment served with shropshire light infantry with less than 12 years service joined army 9th november 1914 posted to royal field artillery as gunner embarked for marseille on 23rd november disembarked for salonika 11 december 1915 nominal roll i would like to know which regiment battery battalion corps he served as these millitry terms escape my intelegence thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 Hello rickalan, and welcome to the Forum! He was with the Royal Field Artillery, which included all artillery units which were part of a division. Each division had four RFA brigades (roughly equivalent in size to an infantry battalion), each of three or four batteries, normally of four guns each. In early 1917 the number of brigades in a division was reduced to two, and the batteries were made up to six guns each by breaking up one of the other brigades. The fourth brigade was withdrawn to form part of a general pool at the disposal of Army HQ. If you refer to Kate Wills' post #3 you will see which divisions served in Salonika, and by going to the main "The Long Long Trail" website (see link at top left) you can find out which RFA brigades served in each division. As you know that he went to Salonika via France you can disregard 10th and 60th Divisions, which went from Gallipoli and Egypt respectively. Unless you have any more detailed info than that, you may not be able to identify his brigade, and in any case probably not his battery, Does the nominal roll you mention include any other indication which might pin down his unit, e.g. B Battery 101 Brigasde, or B/101? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickalan Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 the documentation i have is too large to post i would live for everyone to see what i have to help me make head or tail of it i am not confident enough to decipher what it all means i would like to know his timeline of events from when he set foot on salonika to when he left but this information i find is difficult to put together i will try to upload to a photo site and post a link kind regards Rickalan Hello rickalan, and welcome to the Forum! He was with the Royal Field Artillery, which included all artillery units which were part of a division. Each division had four RFA brigades (roughly equivalent in size to an infantry battalion), each of three or four batteries, normally of four guns each. In early 1917 the number of brigades in a division was reduced to two, and the batteries were made up to six guns each by breaking up one of the other brigades. The fourth brigade was withdrawn to form part of a general pool at the disposal of Army HQ. If you refer to Kate Wills' post #3 you will see which divisions served in Salonika, and by going to the main "The Long Long Trail" website (see link at top left) you can find out which RFA brigades served in each division. As you know that he went to Salonika via France you can disregard 10th and 60th Divisions, which went from Gallipoli and Egypt respectively. Unless you have any more detailed info than that, you may not be able to identify his brigade, and in any case probably not his battery, Does the nominal roll you mention include any other indication which might pin down his unit, e.g. B Battery 101 Brigasde, or B/101? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickalan Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 Ron here is the link to all the documentation i have kind regards Rickalan https://picasaweb.go...feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/116901879111433605708/WilliamThomasAvisWw1?authkey=Gv1sRgCNvy087YwN-kaw <table style="width:194px;"><tr><td align="center" style="height:194px;background:url(https://picasaweb.google.com/s/c/transparent_album_background.gif) no-repeat left"><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/116901879111433605708/WilliamThomasAvisWw1?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCNvy087YwN-kaw&feat=embedwebsite"><img'>https://picasaweb.google.com/116901879111433605708/WilliamThomasAvisWw1?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCNvy087YwN-kaw&feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sN0Fc_a_cwA/TlDcKnu10RE/AAAAAAAAADs/hAVxo7HJ5w0/s160-c/WilliamThomasAvisWw1.jpg" width="160" height="160" style="margin:1px 0 0 4px;"></a></td></tr><tr><td style="text-align:center;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:11px"><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/116901879111433605708/WilliamThomasAvisWw1?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCNvy087YwN-kaw&feat=embedwebsite" style="color:#4D4D4D;font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;">William thomas avis ww1</a></td></tr></table> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 Rickalan The pictures are too small to decipher anything useful, but have a look at the bottom half of photo 3 "Statement of Services" and photo 9 "Casualty Form, Active Service". In each case, the second column should give you some indication of his unit. Can you decipher any of the writing? Photo 10, the Conduct Sheet, might also help. What is written in the column "by whom awarded"? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickalan Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 hi i cannot read the shorthand or handwriting hopefully these are larger pictures i have posted link:- https://picasaweb.go...gCK7nyoC81JiYCQ im not sure any other way for you see them i could email but not sure if the pictures will be able to be enlarged Rickalan The pictures are too small to decipher anything useful, but have a look at the bottom half of photo 3 "Statement of Services" and photo 9 "Casualty Form, Active Service". In each case, the second column should give you some indication of his unit. Can you decipher any of the writing? Photo 10, the Conduct Sheet, might also help. What is written in the column "by whom awarded"? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Clifton Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 Rickalan Still not clear enough to read, I'm afraid, and you don't appear to have copied the "Casualty Form, Active Service" which is usually the best guide. Can you get your originals (especially that one) photocopied with enlargement, and do a fresh scan? You might also like to re-post your query in the "Soldiers" section of the Forum, with the heading "RFA in Salonika - which unit?" and his name. The RFA experts on the Forum may not pick it up in this thread. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickalan Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 hi Ron i have a link to that form that will enlarge i can post the rest of the forms if you dont mind helping me out a little its all a little confusing to me when and where type of stuff thanks for helping kind regards rickalan http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=1219&iid=miuk1914e_123830-00117&pid=null&email=&from=KIRKLEES+LIBRARIES&ancestor=Your+ancestor&ppvhash=2fffa56a2c20e8d88e28f9007e7846e9000039b4fe3a35e3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Wills Posted 21 August , 2011 Share Posted 21 August , 2011 Rickalan, Willaim was granted profiency pay in July 1917. He contracted influenza in October 1918, and was admitted to 60th / 80th General Hospital, and recuperated at a convalescent depot. 4th(?) convalescent depot then seemed to place him on the Y scheme, which covered much-needed home leave from Salonika. Take a look at this thread for a rough explanation: What does H.S. mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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