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Guest KevinEndon

I have just found that the war badges issued for the Navy is a different format to the Army one.

Could a pal tell me please what the headings are.

Badge number is plain to see as is date of issue and name. O.N is that something number. Ratings is rank but I cant for the life of me make out the 6th/last column.

Also the swb I have is to Kidd C.E. M23006 I thought the M was for a midshipman but in the rating column he is down as what looks like wtr III. what is that.

Many thanks for your help in advance.

Kevin

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Kevin, The 'M' prefix covers a multitude of "Miscelllaneous" categories of naval rating, obviously including writers - clerks if you are a pongo. (Wtr III = Writer 3rd Class)

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Guest KevinEndon

Cheers H2

Is there any way I can chase up fag, rum and bum boy Kidd up to see where he was wounded or which boat he may have served on.

Fag, rum and bum boy and boat, I can almost smell the cordite from here.

Incoming!!!!!!

Take cover.

;)

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Kevin, I believe you can buy the summary of his naval service record (ships served in, etc) on-line from TNA. His enlistment papers are in the archive at the Fleet Air Arm Museum. 'ON' is Official Number (Service Number). By the way, the official naval hobbies are rum, sodomy and the lash.

H2

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A bit hard to read without magnification but he was clearly in shore bases (stone frigates) throughout: HMS VIVID at Devonport; HMS PRESIDENT in London. They both included pay offices to which smaller ships/establishments without pay facilities were tenders. He almost certainly spent the entire war keeping pay accounts.

Only one 'golden rivet' ever positively sighted and that was in the engine room of the Royal Yacht BRITANNIA.

H2

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Kevin,

After President VI whats in brackets is it a naval division?, he served in the RNVR (Y9355) before joining the RN may be worth getting the Service Documents for that service, as far as Im aware the RNVR didnt have Third Writers so he may have had another trade.

H2 did your eyes water when you saw that rivet.

Regards Charles

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Guest KevinEndon

can't make out what comes after president vi even blowing it up 400 %.

Can anyone tell me what the last column is on the war badges issued sheet.

We have

Badge no. Date of Issue. Name, O.N. Rating then goodness knows.

Many thanks

Kevin

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President VI was a base for Murmansk tugs from February 1919, being assigned to a stone frigate didn't mean you stayed in the warm!

As you have a copy of the microfilmed copy there's loss to image degredation; it might be easier to read from the microfilm, but if it isn't they can still produce the original. The down side is they are stored offsite and takes 3 days to produce.

There are not papers at Kew for RNVR numbers starting with Y.

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Y numbers where issued to volunteers and conscripts who signed on in the RNVR but were not initially required, there are lots of Y numbers at NA but all are secondary to the numbers given on starting service.

Regards Charles

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The Y number was given to sailors who had signed up but had not been called up.The M with the serice number was given to Artisan and specialist trade ratings,in this case a Writer,the army equivelant would be a clerk.This man joined the regular Royal Navy on a hostilities only engagement which had no time limit and was on the Navy,s discression.The SWB badge was issued as this man was unfit for health reasons to carry on his majesties forces that is why the word used is "invalided" and then the date.Wether this was due to sickness or wounds it does not make clear.Hope this helps Bob. :)

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