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Remembered Today:

The sinking of the Misankie


Redradial

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Thanks very much for the improved copy and the identifiication of the newspaper as well as the other mention of Missanabie. Very helpful. I shall have a look at the Star as you suggest.

Red

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You are welcome!

One thing that remains a mystery is the identity of the G. G. Weir (if that is what is supposed to say) on the above list. I've been trying to find him on the Canadian war dead list to no avail.

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By going to the Canadian Virtual memorial, I've located two Missanabie casualties. The first appears to be your relative.

Lieutenant RICHARD JOSEPH BURKE who died on September 8, 1918

Age: 56

Unit: Canadian Forestry Corps

Son of Richard J. and Mary Burke. Husband of Anny Burke. Served in the South African War with 8th Battalion, The King's Liverpool Regt.

Remembered on the: HALIFAX MEMORIAL, Nova Scotia,Canada

Grave Reference: Panel 2.

Link: Lt. Richard Joseph Burke

Military attestation for - Lt. Richard Joseph Burke

I see that he states his age as 47 on the above forms, but the memorial records have him as 56. The memorial is known to include a number of typo mistakes so one can never be to sure of every statement there, however, older men sometimes took a few years off their age.

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Lieutenant JOHN COURTENAY FRASER

who died on September 9, 1918

Age: 28

Unit: Grenadier Guards Division: Guards Machine Gun Regiment

Son of Captain Thomas Fraser (1st Bn. Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) and Rose Mabel Fraser, of Kensington, London. Educated at Fette College, Edinburgh.

Remembered on: HOLLYBROOK MEMORIAL, Hampshire,United Kingdom.

Link: Lt. John Courtenay Fraser

Marika

I have a photo of the Memorial Plaque on which Lt Fraser is commemorated & I would like to send it to the CVM, but on using the upload facility it tells me the image is too big - any suggestions please

All The Best

Chris

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I don't know the exact size requirements, but I keep mine under 300 KB.

If you have Photoshop - these steps will bring the size down:

1. View your pic through Photoshop at various sizes - ie. 60%. When you find a view that is still large enough for display, then RESIZE at that per cent. My camera puts out images at 1,000 KB. 50% brings it down to an acceptable size, combined with the other steps listed.

2. "SAVE AS" - 7 Medium.

3. Crop edges where possible. IMAGE CROP

4. If you item can go to black and white, then changing Mode to Grayscale will bring down the size. IMAGE MODE GRAYSCALE

If above fails, email to me and I'll take care of it for you. Or, you can email the image directly to Stephanie at cvwm@vac-acc.gc.ca. She usually puts it on within a day or so.

Regards, Marika

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Details on image size restrictions are in the Forum Help under Images.

Another way of reducing the size if you haven't got Photoshop is to use the editing faciliting in Windows (XP) Photo editor. The tab Image offers the option Resize and you can select Pixels so you can get it down to the requirements.

Another good freeware photo editor is FXFoto at http://www.fxfoto.com/fxdownload.htm It isn't actually freeware but the demo version works well.

Red

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Marika, here is the same news clipping from the Calgary Daily Herald, September 16, 1918 edition, link to source.

I had a look through Ted Wigney's "The C.E.F. Roll of Honour" and couldn't find a Major G.G. Weir. I did look through the CWGC but assumed he may not have been with the C.E.F. There is a Captain George Gordon Weir, M.C., of the 7th Battalion Royal Scots who died on September 9, 1918, link and is listed on the Hollybrook Memorial in Southhampton, link. So it appears the news story is in error that his body was recovered.

Red, if you look through the (free) newspapers on the Alberta Heritage Digitization program, link, you will likely find further stories relating to the Missanbie, perhaps even letter accounts from those on board. Don't miss those extra newspapers listed on the bottom of the page.

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Excellent resource Chris. Thanks. How fascinating it is to browse those pages and how difficult not to become side tracked!

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StMarysLongfordMemorialsituatedinSt.jpg

The Longford Memorial which has Lt J C Fraser's name on it

The plaque was situated in St Mary's Parish Church, Longford, Shropshire. It is now situated in St Nicolas Parish Church, Newport, Shropshire

All The Best

Chris

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Thought I'd add this to the right place.

A pantryman on the Missanabie is recorded on the Canadian Virtual Memorial as follows:

Assistant Pantryman

JOHN DAVIES

who died on September 9, 1918

Age: 47

Force: Merchant Navy

Unit: Canadian Merchant Navy

Division: S.S. Missanabie

Additional Information:

Son of David and Ann Davies, husband of Emma Davies (nee Howard), of West Kirby, Cheshire.

Commemorated on Page 22 of the

Merchant Navy Book of Remembrance.

[CLICK HERE FOR AN IMAGE OF THIS PAGE]

[TO ORDER A COPY OF THIS PAGE CLICK HERE]

Burial Information:

Cemetery: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL

London,United Kingdom

Location:THE TOWER HILL MEMORIAL stands on the South side of the garden of Trinity Square, a hundred yards East of Mark Lane Station, and just within the boundaries of the Metropolitan Borough of Stepney and the Liberty of the Tower. It is at the hub of maritime England. Behind it are Trinity House and the offices of the Port of London Authority, and the Thames stretches before it; the wide space of Great Tower Hill, leading down from it to the river, is the traditional forum of merchant seamen and their fellow workers. Lloyd's is on the North, the Custom House and Billingsgate Market are near it on the West, and beyond the Tower, Eastwards, is the long line of the Docks the greatest dock system in the world.

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while searching for info on my Gr Granfather Richard Joseph Burke came across this page. some great info for me to add, thank you. Some information I have found says the Missanabie was on route to New York, why would he be going there and not to Canada?

Looks like Redradial and I are related.

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Interesting thread, pity the Williams family link to Burke doesn't seem to be live anymore...

Many convoys were routed to New York as the safest way to get the maximum numbers of ships across the Atlantic with anti submarine escorts.

Passengers would then continue to their eventual destination either on the same vessel or by changing to train or ship to continue onwards.

 

Hopefully you can regain contact with redradial although he doesn't appear to have been back on the Forum since April 2008

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Thank you, that does make sense now. It had been a riddle I have been trying to solve for a while because if I am reading his army file correctly it looks like R J Burke was going back to be discharged. he has been a hard man to research and I wish I had known him.

The Williams family link belonged to my half sister. 

I will send redradial a message and hopefully get in touch, he is my 1st cousin x1 removed, my grandfather William was his fathers Gerald brother

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Hello, I am the granddaughter of John Percy Mccabe who served on the Missanabie during 1915 as a Fourth Baker.  I am trying to find out if he was on this ship when it was torpedoed.  Is there any source that lists the names of the crew's survivors?  I have no record of his service and don't know if he served on other ships as well.  Thank you very much.

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Janet

 

Welcome to the Forum !

It would have been more effective if you had started a new thread as people tend less to look for something under another subject.

However,I should be able to help as I am at the National Archives tomorrow and see that there are some voyage papers for MISSANABIE in the file series BT26, but this is only for NY to LPL.

There aren't always full series of these papers so the 1918 may not be there.

I will advise in a day or two.

 

Later. BT26/644/48 covers the voyage from NY arriving at LPL on 24.6.1918, that's currently the nearest I can get to Sep 1918.

Also there is a file BT99/3455 for 1918 crew lists of some vessels, including for Official Number 136705, which was designated for MISSANABIE:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C2480795

 

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Janet

 

I have found the ship's Crew Agreement for the voyage of the torpedo, 4th Baker McCabe isn't in the crew list, nor is he for three other voyages in 1918. The same baker was on 3 of the 4 that I looked into,Thomas J QUINN.

E NEWSHAM was the 4th Baker on the fateful voyage and he survived. The papers show the list of casualties for the torpedo-ing if anyone wants it.

 

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sotonmate

 

I sincerely apologize for my delay in replying.  Thank you for your work in finding the information about my grandfather. Our family did not have any record of his service so everything we know is based on information we're gleaning from the internet. Again, your work is really appreciated! 

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On 06/09/2016 at 06:15, Maria said:

while searching for info on my Gr Granfather Richard Joseph Burke came across this page. some great info for me to add, thank you. Some information I have found says the Missanabie was on route to New York, why would he be going there and not to Canada?

Looks like Redradial and I are related.

Hi Maria,

Just seen this whilst researching the Burke's family tree. Richard Joseph Burke is my Great Great Grandfather so I have more information on his immediate descendants if you are interested ? Do you have any more info on the RJ Burke family etc. ???

Kind regards,

Brian and Jess Burke x

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On 07/09/2016 at 03:07, Maria said:

Thank you, that does make sense now. It had been a riddle I have been trying to solve for a while because if I am reading his army file correctly it looks like R J Burke was going back to be discharged. he has been a hard man to research and I wish I had known him.

The Williams family link belonged to my half sister. 

I will send redradial a message and hopefully get in touch, he is my 1st cousin x1 removed, my grandfather William was his fathers Gerald brother

Hi Maria,

Is your grandfather William Gladstone Burke born around 1893 and who sadly died in 1978 (brother to my Great Grandfather who was another Richard Joseph Burke) ? If so his father was Richard Burke who was married to Annie Bishop,

Regards

Brian

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