Stephen Nulty Posted 12 May , 2006 Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Pals One of the men I'm researching is Private Joseph BRAY. CWGC - Private 2288660, 2nd Bn., South Wales Borderers, Date of Death 15/10/1918 SDGW - Private 2288660, 1st Bn., Monmouthshire Regiment, Date of Death 25/10/1918 MIC - Private 2288660, Monmouthshire Regiment (previously 21632, South Lancs. Regt.) So was he with 1st Monmouthshires or 2nd SWB, and did he die on 15th or 25th October? Grateful for any clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 12 May , 2006 Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Hi have a look on the mothe site here http://www.1914-1918.net/monmouth.htm there was no Mons as such by 1918 so he was SWB. The dates are a simple error which one is right? Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 12 May , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Gareth Thanks for the pointer. I'll record him as SWB, and as you say, it's a question of put luck on the dates. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian turner Posted 12 May , 2006 Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Stepehen, There were battalions from both the SWB and the Mons in the 29th Div, and thus at 4th Ypres and beyond, with the Second Army. He is buried at Ledeghem, which was fought around during mid October 1918 and by 25th Oct they were past Courtrai and at Ooteghem. So my money would be on 15th October as the correct date. As to unit - the Mons were I believe pioneers. Maybe having already been in the South Lancs he had been transferred to the Mons as a pioneer? Maybe an expert with the numbers could tell more? Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 12 May , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Ian Many thanks. 15th it is then !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 12 May , 2006 Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Just to chuck a spanner in the works Ive just had a look for his MICs for either number and couldnt find any, now im confused Ill have another look. Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 12 May , 2006 Share Posted 12 May , 2006 got him Medal card of Bray, Joseph Corps Regiment No Rank Lancashire Regiment 21631 Private Monmouthshire Regiment 228860 no mention of SWB (Stephen i think you twitched with your index finger with the numbers.) SWB under J Bray but no mention of other units Medal card of Bray, J Corps Regiment No Rank South Wales Borderers 228860 Private With no cross indexing on these cards its little wonder there are inconsistencies in the casualty records. (PS There is another Joseph (chas) Bray in the Mons / Royal engineer and Worcester 387919. 7919, 2643.) Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 12 May , 2006 Author Share Posted 12 May , 2006 Thanks, Gareth. Sorry if the tryping errot confused you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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