Major Jager, Tank Corps

[Verrinder Ian]

Does anybody have any information on this chap. I know he was the CO of No.4 Company, B Battalion, Tank Corps, during Cambrai but I've seen nothing else relating to him.

What I'm really trying to find out is whether he left any papers in any of the various archives. Major L.S. Henshall was the CO of 5 Company and his archive at the IWM has loads of stuff.

Dear old Jager unfortunately seems to keep a much lower profile!

Regards,

Ian.

[delta]

There appear to be two Jagers serving with the Tanks; both from the Liverpool Regiment;

The first is Bertram Maurice Jager who is shown as Temp capt with the Heavy Branch of the MGC wef 21 Dec 1916, with seniority 28 Sep 1914, whose medal cards shows him to be a Hussar.

The other is Capt ANR Jager (Lt Temp capt ) who was an eqpt offr 25th Mar 1918 then appointed Adjt 27th Sep 1918; having been seconded as a Capt on 22nd Jul 1918. ( I can't find his MIc yet)

Stephen

[Verrinder Ian]

Thanks once again for filling in some gaps in my knowledge.

I reckon my man must be Betram Maurice Jager because the 2nd Battalion War Diary (WO 95-113) has the following entry for 17th June 1917: "Capt. JAGER replaced Major BINGHAM as OC 4th Coy".

Is there anything else on Betram Maurice?

Regards,

Ian.

[Stebie9173]

As you command...

From the Gazette

LG 2-11-1914

2nd City Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment),

The undermentioned to be temporary Captains: —

Bertram Maurice Jager. Dated 23rd September, 1914.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

LG 13-11-1914

2nd City Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment), The following is substituted for previous notifications in the Gazette affecting the undermentioned officers —

The undermentioned to be temporary Captains. Dated 2nd September, 1914- —

Bertram Maurice Jager.

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LG 4-12-1914

Notice is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between us, the undersigned, Bertram Maurice Jager and Oswald Allen,

carrying on business as Sugar Refiners, at 77, Burlington Street, Liverpool, under the style or firm of GEORGE JAGER AND SON, has been dissolved by mutual consent as and from the thirty-first day of

October, one thousand nine hundred and fourteen. All debts due to and owing by the said late firm will be received and paid by the said Bertram Maurice Jager, who is continuing to carry on the 'business of

George Jager and Son, under that title and at the same address.—Dated this twenty-seventh day of November, one thousand nine hundred and fourteen.

B. M. JAGER.

S OSWALD ALLEN.

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LG 17-1-1902

1st Volunteer Battalion the Cheshire Regiment,

Bertram Maurice Jager, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant. Dated 18th January, 1902.

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LG 27-2-1919

High. L.I.

Temp. Maj. B. M. Jager, from Tank Corps, to be temp. Maj. 17 Aug. 1918 with seniority 17 Nov. 1917.

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LG 13-3-1919

TANK CORPS.

Temp. Maj. B. M. Jager ceases to belong to the Corps on transfer to High. L.I. (Serv. Bn.). 17 Aug. 1918.

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Steve.

[delta]

Steve

As ever, you're the master

I completely missed his initial commission as well as the transfer to HLI

Stephen

[Stebie9173]

Less of those Roll Eyes....

A few more bits:

LG 6-1-1903

1st Volunteer Battalion, the Cheshire Regiment, Second Lieutenant B. M. Jager to be Lieutenant. Dated 7th January, 1903.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

LG 9-4-1907

1st Volunteer Battalion, The Cheshire Regiment,

Lieutenant B. M. Jager to be Captain. Dated 21st January, 1907.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

Not sure where his "Hussars" service comes from?

The "other" Jager, is Arthur Noel Richardson Jager, commissioned around the same time as Bertram.

Steve.

[Stebie9173]

Arthur Noel Richardson Jager

LG 11-2-1902

ROYAL ENGINEERS (VOLUNTEERS).

1st Cheshire,

The undermentioned' Gentlemen to be Second Lieutenants (Supernumerary):—

Arthur Noel Richardson Jager. Dated 12th February, 1902.

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LG 7-6-1904

ROYAL ENGINEERS (VOLUNTEERS).

1st Cheshire, The undermentioned Officers resign their Commissions:—

Second Lieutenant A. N. R. Jager. Dated 4th June, 1904.

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LG 1-6-1909

10th (Scottish) Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment);

Arthur Noel Richardson Jager to be Second Lieutenant. Dated 15th March, 1909.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

LG 2-8-1912

10th (Scottish) Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment).

Second Lieutenant Arthur N. R. Jager to be Lieutenant. Dated 1st July, 1912.

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType=

LG 22-12-1914

10th (Scottish) Battalion, The King's (Liverpool Regiment).

Lieutenant Arthur N. R. Jager to be Captain (temporary). Dated 2nd December 1914.

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LG 9-12-1915

The King's (Liverpool Regiment).

Captain Arthur N. R. Jager is restored to the establishment. Dated 23rd June, 1915.

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LG 30-5-1917

TERRITORIAL FORCE.

INFANTRY.

Liverpool Regt.—

Lt. (temp.) (temp. Capt.) A. N. R. Jager to be Lt. (temp. Capt.), with precedence as from 5th Aug. 1914. 31st May 1917.

Lt. (temp. Capt.) A. N. R. Jager to be Capt., with precedence as from 1st June 1916, next below Capt. H. T. Whitson. 31st May 1917.

Lt. (temp.) (temp. Capt.) D. A. Bingham to be Lt. (temp. Capt.), with precedence as from 19th Sept. 1914. 31st May 1917.

Lt. (temp. Capt.) D. A. Bingham to be Capt., with precedence as from 1st June 1916. 31st May 1917.

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LG 13-4-1918

TANK CORPS.

The undermentioned Capts. to be Capts, retaining present seniority: —

A. N. R. Jager (L'pool R., T.F.). 22 Feb. 1918.

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LG 18-4-1918

Liverpool Regt.—

Capt. A. N. R. Jager is seconded. 22nd Feb. 1918.

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LG 26-7-1918

TANK CORPS.

Capt. A. N. R. Jager.(L'pooLR., T.F.) to be Equip. Offr. 25 Mar. 1918.

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LG 14-12-1918

Capt. A. N. R. Jager (L'pool R., T.F.), from Equipt. Offr., to be Adjt. 27 Sept. 1918.

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LG 17-5-1919

TANK CORPS.

Capt. A. N. R. Jager (10th Bn., L'pool R., T.F.) ceases to be.empld. as Adjt. 20 Mar. 1919.

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LG 14-2-1921

The undermentioned Capts1. cease to be empld. with, the Corps: —

15 Feb. 1921.

A. N. R. Jager (10th Bn., L'pool R., T.F.).

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LG 18-2-1921

10th Bn., The King's R.—Capt. A. N. R. Jager is restd. to the unit. 15th Feb. 1921.

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LG 7-12-1921

7th December, 1921.

TERRITORIAL ARMY.

The undermentioned Offrs. relinquish their commns., 30th -Sept. 1921, under A.O. 166/21 as amended by A.O. 332/21, and retain their rank except where otherwise stated: —

10th Bn. The King's R.—

Capt. A. N. R. Jager.

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Looks like he didn't join the Tank Corps until 22-2-1918, and therefore couldn't have been with the Tanks at Cambrai.

Coincidentally a Captain Bingham (of the King's) is mentioned next to one of his promotions. Probably just coincidence.

Steve.

[Old Chap]

Here's a photo of B.M.Jager while he was in the Liverpool Pals. Hope it is of interest.

Bill

[Verrinder Ian]

Gentlemen you have excelled! Thanks very much.

I'm extremely pleased with the photo, as this is the first of the Tank Corps men I'm tracing who I've managed to get a photo of - thanks alot.

Do you chaps think the two Jagers might be related, as Liverpool seems to crop in both cases? There can't be too many unrelated Jagers about.

Regards,

Ian.

[Stebie9173]

Spot on, Ian. They are brothers.

1901 Census

Birkenhead, Cheshire.

George Jager abt 1846 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Head, Sugar Refiner

Georgina Jager abt 1857 Ramsey Hentryton Wife

May D Jager abt 1871 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter

George H Jager abt 1877 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son, Student at Law

Bertram M Jager abt 1880 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son, Sugar chemist

Arthur N R Jager abt 1882 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Son, Sugar clerk

Freede G M Jager abt 1887 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Daughter

+ 5 servants

He was married in 1907 at Birkenhead, probably to either Ruth MacIver or Eleanor Frances Willsher, who are recorded on the same Registry page as he was.

Arthur married Winifrede J Laird in 1913 at Birkenhead.

Steve.

[delta]

Interesting spelling to the surname - any clues as to the origin

(ie a changed Jagger or perhaps an Anglicized Jaeger)

Stephen

[Tim]

Interesting spelling to the surname - any clues as to the origin

(ie a changed Jagger or perhaps an Anglicized Jaeger)

Stephen

German Origin. Jaeger/Jager/Jäger. From Middle High German jeger(e) meaning Hunter or Huntsman.

Cheers,

Tim

[delta]

Thanx Tim

Stephen

[Verrinder Ian]

Thank again chaps.

Yesterday I thought I'd follow up the information relating to B.M. Jager's interest in the business George Jager and Sons. I put the name into Google and immediately got a website deicated to the history of Sugar Refining in the UK!

It turns out that George Jager and Sons was a sugar refining company in Liverpool. I've e-mailed the website to see if they can supply any other information about the business and its descendants.

Cheers,

Ian.