From S. Staffs Regt to Notts & Derby Regt

[w.longmore]

Hi folks, My grandfather, Joseph Longmore, Regd Number 14794, enlisted 7-10-1914 in the South Staffordshire Regt. His MIC shows a move to the Notts & Derby Regt and his number there was TR/6/13091. On 13-12-1917 he was medicaly discharged 392 XVI KR 2BI W. and on the MIC

Name Corps REG No rank date of Dis cause of discharge

Longmore T. Res(or) g TR/6/13091 Pte 13-12-1917 392 XVI KR

Joseph 14 Dr Enlistment 2BI

7-10-1914 W

Action Taken Lio 7/a/591

Can anyone tell me why he would have changed Regts. and how I would find his units, battalions and or Companys?

Also on the Mic Theatre of war first served in 1, Date of entry therein 3-9-1915

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance,

[Greenwoodman]

Hi Bill

Grandad will have changed regiments for just one reason - army requirement. It is most likely he would have been wounded or ill, removed from his own battalion to hospital, perhaps medevac'd back to blighty. On his recovery, he would have set off on a journey leading, if he was fit enough, back to the front line.

From my interpretation of the details you have set out, it looks like when he started that journey back, his injuries/illness had affected him so much that he was sent to a Training Reserve battalion with the Notts & Derbys, while he was assessed as to his fitness. Looks like he was not fit enough to be employed by the Amry and was discharged. Both the South Staffs & the Sherwood Foresters had one (at least) of their training battalions (the 3rd battalion of each regiment) attached to the Tyne Garrison. These battalions would be providing guards for the Tyne area, training troops to be sent on to front-line battalions, and assessing the capabilities of troops returning from the medical services. The change could be as simple as the 3rd S Staffs had its full quota, or the Notts & Derbys battalion was stationed closer to the medical facility dealing with your grandfather's problems.

Theatre of war 1 is W. Europe, France & Flanders probably. The date does not coincide with any specific battalion moves to France, the closest being 9th Pioneer Battalion which landed in France 24/08/15. So most likely he went to France in a draft to be allocated to one of the S Staffs battalions already there.

Perhaps one of the S Staffs experts would be able to correlate his number to a particular battalion. The alternate method is to follow his MIC back into the medal rolls, which would identify his battalion with the S Staffs.

From what you've put up about the Notts & Derbys, its seems likely that his career with them was brief, perhaps only while they decided he was unable to continue in the Army.

And 392 (XVI) - from the Long, Long Trail (link above) - (xvi) No longer physically fit for service

[w.longmore]

Hi Bill

Grandad will have changed regiments for just one reason - army requirement. It is most likely he would have been wounded or ill, removed from his own battalion to hospital, perhaps medevac'd back to blighty. On his recovery, he would have set off on a journey leading, if he was fit enough, back to the front line.

From my interpretation of the details you have set out, it looks like when he started that journey back, his injuries/illness had affected him so much that he was sent to a Training Reserve battalion with the Notts & Derbys, while he was assessed as to his fitness. Looks like he was not fit enough to be employed by the Amry and was discharged. Both the South Staffs & the Sherwood Foresters had one (at least) of their training battalions (the 3rd battalion of each regiment) attached to the Tyne Garrison. These battalions would be providing guards for the Tyne area, training troops to be sent on to front-line battalions, and assessing the capabilities of troops returning from the medical services. The change could be as simple as the 3rd S Staffs had its full quota, or the Notts & Derbys battalion was stationed closer to the medical facility dealing with your grandfather's problems.

Theatre of war 1 is W. Europe, France & Flanders probably. The date does not coincide with any specific battalion moves to France, the closest being 9th Pioneer Battalion which landed in France 24/08/15. So most likely he went to France in a draft to be allocated to one of the S Staffs battalions already there.

Perhaps one of the S Staffs experts would be able to correlate his number to a particular battalion. The alternate method is to follow his MIC back into the medal rolls, which would identify his battalion with the S Staffs.

From what you've put up about the Notts & Derbys, its seems likely that his career with them was brief, perhaps only while they decided he was unable to continue in the Army.

And 392 (XVI) - from the Long, Long Trail (link above) - (xvi) No longer physically fit for service

Hi Richard, thank you for the reply, I now understand things a lot better. Best regards,