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GRAHAM STEWART


bernardmcilwaine

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graham,during your research,did you come across any of these brothers

peter,james burns

john,aitchison burns

george burns

james burns

robert burns

david,alexander burns

william burns

ime hoping they or most of them served,the newspapers were usually keen to include mass enlistments of brothers in their newspapers,many thanks,bernard

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Bernard,

Have to admit that if they are all brothers within the same Burns family and are all serving with the NF, then I haven't come across them, and the name Burns isn't uncommon to the regiment. Any idea where they're from?

The newspapers are a good source for that sort of thing, but you won't find the Alnwick Gazette, Hexham Courant or the Berwick papers located in Newcastle. The Alwick Gazette and Hexham Courant were still located in their newpaper offices some years ago, and hopefully they still remain there as it would be a shame if they had been destroyed.

Still, if you have any further clues for me to go on, I can check.

Graham.

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Graham, help me out here. Your Avatar has a cap badge on it. We are dealing with that over the pond at the Canadian Expeditionary Force Study Group:

See CEF Northumberland

There was someone looking up a photo and I noted that image was one badge I had from my grandfather. He also served in the 26th Northumberland Fusiliers. Since I had other 25th cap badges and they are in his photos, I thought this one was something else ... until I saw it in your Avatar.

Can you shed some light on this?

Richard

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Richard,

To the left is the bronze officers cap badge which would have been worn by your GF. Up until 1916 NF officers also wore collar badges of a similar design to this badge but in facing pairs.

The badge in the middle is an earlier pattern collar badge that was replaced by collar badges of the design mentioned above, but in early 1914 some officers still managed to get their hands on these to wear as seen on photos.

The badge on the right is the officers silver & gilt shoulder title, and it seems to have been optional regarding it's wear.

The badge in your CEF Study Group is a Territorial Force officers bronze collar badge for the Royal Engineers i.e. it has no scroll below the grenade with "Ubique" on it and it has two additional flames, to tell it apart from those of the officers of R.F.A.(T.F.).

Graham.

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Richard,

My Avtar is the other ranks cloth slip-on shoulder title(bottom) adopted late in the war, which replaced the earlier metal titles(top) on the shoulder strap.

Hope this clears it up for you.

Graham.

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The badge in the middle is an earlier pattern collar badge that was replaced by collar badges of the design mentioned above, but in early 1914 some officers still managed to get their hands on these to wear as seen on photos.

Thanks for that, they looked so similar but when you see them close up they are not. Confusing to me as I had a mixture of the two sets in one box. I have the 26th cap badge in the left of your photo and the shoulder badges on the right. The one I have that looks like the one in your middle caused the confusion.

The badge in your CEF Study Group is a Territorial Force officers bronze collar badge for the Royal Engineers i.e. it has no scroll below the grenade with "Ubique" on it and it has two additional flames, to tell it apart from those of the officers of R.F.A.(T.F.).

I have posted that back on the CEF Forum as that appears to be the consensus answer.

Your assistance was most appreciated.

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hiya graham,all i know is that they all came from and lived in northumberland,i will try and find out a bit more,many thanks,bernard

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Not a help with their WW1 service but I think this may be the family in 1901.

Hepscott nr Morpeth

Hugh Burns - age 47 - Head - Ag. Lab. - Born Scotland.

Jane Burns - 50 wife Birthplace Scotland.

William Burns - 20 - son - Hind. Birthplace Norham

John A. Burns - 18 - son - Hind Birthplace Ford

Elizabeth I. Burns - 17 Birthplace Ford

Agnes A. Burns - 14 Birthplace Ford

George Burns - 13 - Worker on Farm - Birthplace Ford

Robert Burns - 11 - Birthplace - Ford

James Burns - 9 - Birthplace Kylo

David Burns - 8 - Birthplace Kennington?

Kate

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In 1891 the family were living at Chatton.

Hugh Burns - age 37 - Ag. Lab.

Jane Burns age 40 Wife

Peter James Burns age 14 Ag. Lab. Birthplace Ford

William Burns - aged 10 - scholar. Ford

John Aitchison Burns aged 8 - scholar Ford

Elizabeth Jane - aged 7 - Scholar - Ford

Agnes Jane Burns - aged 4. - Ford

George Burns aged 3 - Ford

Robert Burns aged 1 - Ford

And in 1881 living at Twizel, Nbd.

Hugh Burns - aged 27 - Ag. Lab.

Jane Burns - aged 30

Peter Burns - aged 4 Birthplace Rolles Nbd.

Alexander Burns - aged 3 Birthplace Rolles Nbd.

Hugh Burns - aged 1 Birthplace Lowick Nbd.

William Burns - aged 2 mths. Birthplace Tindale House Nbd.

Kate

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And lastly Peter James Burns in 1901 living in Weetslade

Peter James Burns aged 24 Platelayer Birthplace Ford

Catherine E. Burns aged 24 Birthplace Dudley Colliery

Hugh Burns aged 2 Birthplace Embleton

Margaret J. aged 7 mths. Birthplace Dudley Colliery.

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Also

A quick glance at the MICs and putting in David A. (no regiment) shows:

David A. Burns D.L.I. 11410

then there are the following:

Robert Burns D.L.I. 8/3313 & 30073or 8 (can't read my own writing))

George Burns D.L.I. 65027 & Lab. Corps 21695 or D.L.I. 430 & M.G.C. 152545

James Burns D.L.I. 105763 (Lots of James Burns)

Of course David is most unusual name.

Kate

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