chrisharley9 Posted 18 February , 2006 Share Posted 18 February , 2006 can any Pal help me please with this MIC 1. Is the renumbering due to the renumbering exercise in the TF 2. Is WR the abbrev for Waterways & Railways RE 3. What is in the remarks column All The Best Chris frank_dean.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pte1643 Posted 18 February , 2006 Share Posted 18 February , 2006 1. Is the renumbering due to the renumbering exercise in the TF Would seem the most probable answer. 2. Is WR the abbrev for Waterways & Railways RE YES. 3. What is in the remarks column ????? Haven't a clue about the "Remarks" Sorry. Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 18 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 18 February , 2006 cheers for the answer All the best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 18 February , 2006 Share Posted 18 February , 2006 The range 610001 to 630000 "belongs" to the 19th Londons so it fits with him being renumbered in early 1917 to that number. Remarks may be a date but what the context would be I can't say. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveE Posted 18 February , 2006 Share Posted 18 February , 2006 Remarks looks like a date, a check of the medal roll may throw some light on it's relevance. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 19 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 19 February , 2006 Thanks to you all for the answers so far Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 19 February , 2006 Share Posted 19 February , 2006 Chris Yes, Yes and I have no idea. I don't have this man on my 19th Londons database because he doesnt appear on the 19th London medal rolls. However I do have several numbered either side whose enlistment dates I have from the SWB rolls: Pte GRAY, Edward, 5538 and 612005 enlisted 08/03/1916 Pte CHILDS, James Frederick, 5551 and 612012 enlisted 09/03/1916 I would say that your man probably enlisted on 9 March 1916. He almost ceratinly attested under the Derby Scheme in late 1915. regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 20 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2006 Charles thank you for that answer which I will pass on to Frank's grandson All The Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 20 February , 2006 Share Posted 20 February , 2006 thank you for that answer which I will pass on to Frank's grandson Chris, My pleasure. Is there any chance you could please ask his grandson if he has any further info that I could put into the database? I am trying to do a social history analysis of the battalion. I have a lot on the 1914/15 men, but not much on those who I know joined in 1916 onwards. Every little snippet helps. I'm particularly interested in the following: DOB Place of Enlistment Place of Residence NOK/marital status Occupation Employer Height regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 20 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 February , 2006 Charles I have e mailed my mate & will let you know the results in due course Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 21 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 February , 2006 Charles some of the info on Frank Dean from my friend He was born on 7/7/1896, although he may not have known that! Sometime in the 50’s he discovered that he was 3 years older than he thought but it’s not known how or when the discrepancy arose. He was born as Frank Skeats but by 1901 was known as Frank Dean. The change appears to have taken place in 1899, but again the reason isn’t known for certain. He was fostered as a child, ended up on training ship “Exmouth” moored at Grays, Essex from 2/3/1910 to 6/11/1912. On leaving this he joined the Merchant Navy aboard SS Highland Rover of Nelson Line working between London and South America. There the trail ends. At the time of the war he had no known relatives and was not married. He was short, probably 5’3”. After the war he went into the building trade, but whether he was returning to it or whether he was assisted by his father in law I don’t know. Sometime during the war he was the victim of a gas attack which left him with bad eyes for the rest of his life. All The Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fair Posted 21 February , 2006 Share Posted 21 February , 2006 Chris, many thanks to you and your friend - that is useful info indeed. One possible scenario: If he was gassed when serving with the 19th that would almost certainly have been at Bourlon Wood at the end of November 1917. He would then have been tfd to the RE sometime in 1918 after recovering. If his service record and/or ministry of pensions records survive they may shed more light. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 21 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 21 February , 2006 Charles You are very welcome & thanks for what you have provided Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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