wig Posted 20 January , 2006 Share Posted 20 January , 2006 This is a fine photograph but I am unsure of the nature of the sleeve badge or the chevrons. I assume he is a captain but do the rings around the lower sleeve signify anything? Wig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 20 January , 2006 Share Posted 20 January , 2006 Wig, I think the two vertical stripes on the lower left arm are wound stripes. Tom McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 20 January , 2006 Share Posted 20 January , 2006 The rings around the captains pips were part of the rank badge at that particular time. The rings and the border around the pips is made of similar, if not the same material, that SNCOs & NCOs chevrons were cut from. Hope this helps Tom McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 20 January , 2006 Share Posted 20 January , 2006 The upper arm badge looks like a grenade - do we know his unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted 20 January , 2006 Author Share Posted 20 January , 2006 Sherwood Foresters The upper arm badge looks like a grenade - do we know his unit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themonsstar Posted 20 January , 2006 Share Posted 20 January , 2006 Hi Wig The Officer pos is in the 7th Batt (Robin Hoods) Foresters , he is a Capt with 2 wound strips and the grenade is the bombing officer's badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Alexander Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 Didn't the grenade represent bombing officer? (Officer in charge of a specialized bombing section (grenade throwers)?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 It is a little more likely he was officer of Trench Mortar Battery: the badge for a TMB officer was very similar, perhaps even identical, worn in the same place, and a captain is a bit on the senior side for a bombing officer: substantive captains were in short supply and were needed to run companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 Is it my eyes or is there something not quite right with his right hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 seems comparatively armless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 That would indicate that he probably is a bomber - or ex-bomber? I imagine lost fingers/hands was an occupational hazard? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 A Captain, two wound stripes, missing right hand carrying a walking stick old style captain pips and is that a Rifle Brigade cap badge. As to the grenade or bomb on the upper sleeve is that for TMB officer? He has certainly had a busy war and from the picture I would say we were pre 1916. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 Actually, doesn`t he have part of a hand - a thumb? Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 21 January , 2006 Share Posted 21 January , 2006 M13PQB, I thought he looked like rifle brigade too, especially the blackened buttons. Tom McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted 26 January , 2006 Author Share Posted 26 January , 2006 I now know a little more about this officer. The officers name is Arthur Annan Dickson of the Sherwood Foresters. He is a Scottish man and his second name, Annan is taken from the Annnadale area of West Scotland. Before the war he worked in a bank in Devon. He enlisted into the Inns of Court O.T.C. and was commissioned into the 2/7th Bttn of the Sherwood Foresters in early 1916. As a subaltern he fought in Ireland during the rising when his battalion took heavy casualties (see http://www.wfrmuseum.org.uk/rhr_Ireland.htm). He went to France in 1917 in command of a Trench Mortar Battery and was engaged in heavy fighting before being wounded at Gommecourt – shot in the neck by a German sniper. He was demobbed in 1919 and went back to the Bank, Llyods bank, where he rose to become bank manager in the picture postcard town of Bourne End, Buckinghamshire. He wrote a fictionalised account of his war as a Trench Mortar Battery commander that was never published although a few private copies were printed by his family. He is of that generation. He is why we come here. He is all our grandfathers wig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 Nice to be right about the TMB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted 26 January , 2006 Author Share Posted 26 January , 2006 for an account of the incident in which this officer was wounded see http://www.firstworldwar.com/diaries/varie...ftrenchlife.htm wig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 Looks like his hand is OK; just obscured by the gloves and stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 Wig, I don't think your man is wearing a Sherwood Forresters outfit. Here is the Herwood Foresters capbadge on their museum site: http://www.wfrmuseum.org.uk/sf_museum.htm Again, it looks like the capbadge of a Rifle type regiment (possibly rifle brigade). Hope this is of use Tom McC *Sherwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofatfortakeoff Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 The cane aint military is it? Looks like something he may have used at home while wounded. Fantastic pic and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIDMED Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 The cane aint military is it? Looks like something he may have used at home while wounded. Fantastic pic and info. This type of cane, silver or brass topped and very common as a status symbol as is the gloves amongst Great War military officers and no indication of once being wounded or weather at home or overseas. He is most defiantly a Territorial Sherwood Forester, the territorials being a Rifle battalion hence the blackened brass/bronze buttons ect,ect. May be a 1.7.16 veteran being a trained bombing officer.... just a guess his wounds may have been to his head as his eyes to me dont look quite right. Great image Tom……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 26 January , 2006 Share Posted 26 January , 2006 Thanks Mid Med, That explains the cap badge Tom McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 27 January , 2006 Share Posted 27 January , 2006 The unit he belongs to is actually the "Robin Hood Rifles" or as it was officially known pre-war 7th(Robin Hood)Bn, The Sherwood Foresters(Nottinghamshire & DerbyshireRegiment)(T.F.), whose H.Q. and 'A' to 'H' Companies were located on Derby Road, Nottingham. Being a Territorial Rifle Regiment they adopted the peculiarities associated with either the Kings Royal Rifles or Rifle Brigade and in doing so adopt badges and dress associated with these units. The badges are usually blackened or silver have the cross based upon the Order of the Bath, the centre of which usually bares a bugle horn and crown. As Rifles they're also allowed to wear blackened buttons and rank insignia. In the case of the Robin Hoods they adopted a full dress uniform that was closely associated with that of the Rifle Brigade, as opposed to that of the the Kings Royal Rifles. I'll post a few illustrations without I hope infringing on copyright to illustrate what I'm trying to explain. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 27 January , 2006 Share Posted 27 January , 2006 As promised the cap badge as a line drawing last seen circa 1968 and how they would have looked in full dress in 1914. If I'm 100% certain the Robin Hoods adopted the full dress of the Rifle Brigade which is illustrated here showing an officer, senior rank and private. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wig Posted 7 February , 2006 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2006 I was wrong about this officer being a scotsman. He was born in Hele, Devon and educated at Hoe Grammar School Plymouth. It is also true that his hand was injured. In Nieuport Belgium, his H.Q. was destroyed by heavy shelling in October 1917 and it was upon that occasion that he recieved the injury to his hand. After the war he became a pacifist and a membe of the Peace Pledge Union. Eventually he also became a Quaker. I have just recieved a copy of a book he wrote about his life as a Trench Mortar Battery Commander in the 42nd Division. The book is entitled "Surviviors - Four men in Flanders" He uses fictional names in real situations and the book was wrtten in the 1920's but never published. wig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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