KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Chums, Would appreciate the above info, Arthur died 12/11/ 1918 so far as i can tell. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMESOLDIER Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi Roop, Sorry, not recorded on SDGW. Cheers Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Thanks Tim, I thought it was just my copy that failed me. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMESOLDIER Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi Roop, I'm intrigued by CWGC entry as to burial, as it states:- Alternative Commemoration, buried in Hull General Cemetery, Screen Wall, Hull Northern Cemetery. Do you know what this means ? http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/casualty_...asualty=2906936 Cheers Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Not exactly. Hull was extensively bombed during WW2 so may allude to a grave being lost or similar. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMESOLDIER Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi Roop, Now that is very interesting !! So you think his grave was possibly lost during the Second World War and so is marked on a wall or monument ? Is it definate that he died back in hull ? Or could he just be remembered by his family there ? Cheers Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Well Tim, that too is possible as he may have a stone in the general cemetery ?? There are others similarly commemorated , just trying to find them. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 HULL NORTHERN CEMETERY Country: United Kingdom Locality: Yorkshire Historical Information: Hull, the third largest port in the United Kingdom, was subjected to many heavy air raids throughout the Second World War, although the Humber was strongly defended by heavy anti-aircraft guns, by barrage balloons, and by ships of the home fleet. Hull Northern Cemetery contains 279 Second World War burials, most of them scattered but about 50 of them forming a war plot in Compartments 200,201 and 202. There are also 69 scattered First World War burials. A screen wall in the war graves plot also bears the names of a number of casualties of both wars buried in other Hull cemeteries* where their graves could no longer be maintained, bringing the total number of burials and commemorations of the Second World War to 298, including 2 unidentified sailors of the R.N., and First World War to 114. There are 13 Foreign National war burials here including 2 unidentified German airmen. There are also 4 non-war Service burials here. The screen wall also commemorates 56 servicemen and women whose remains were cremated in the Hull Crematorium. * Hull (Holy Trininty, Hessle Road) Cemetery; Hull General Cemetery; Scylcoates (Sacristy) Cemetery. This answers it. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Roop, On the burial, Hull General Cemetery is a private cemetery that is now unused and is a "Nature Reserve" any stone that is unsafe is laid down. His name is on the screenwall along with the names of people in the other unused or grassed cemeterys. Ill have a root about for any info on him. Finding his original stone could be a rucksack and sleeping bag job!, but Ill get a photo of the wall. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMESOLDIER Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi Charles, Excellent stuff. Sounds like a bit of a labour of love but I would be very interested in any information you could find out. Cheers Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Many thanks Charles, needless to say Arthur had slipped through the net with not being on SDGW. He was originally in the 1st Hull HB and then 158th HB in East Africa. It would appear he was repatriated through ill health before being re posted to 24SB and meeting with some incident. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi, Just went to Northern and got photo of screen wall, looks very nice but difficult to read. The headstones in front have been moved there from Sculcoates Cemetery. Didnt fancy an adventure today so will look in General Cemetery another day. If anyone has his old plot number in the General Cemetery it would help find a stone if there is one. Ill put photo on next post. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi, The photo; Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMMESOLDIER Posted 30 December , 2005 Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Hi Charles, Very good and interesting photograph. Not often you see something like that in a cemetery !! Thanks for your time and trouble. I look forward to hearing about your Grand Expedition !!!! Cheers Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 30 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 December , 2005 Thanks Charles, really appreciate that. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 31 December , 2005 Share Posted 31 December , 2005 Roop, Had a quick look for your man only have this, which is in the Roll of Honour section Hull Daily Mail 13 Nov 1918. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 31 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 31 December , 2005 Charles, Thats interesting, wonder if that was a result of other illness etc. Thanks a million for looking. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 31 December , 2005 Share Posted 31 December , 2005 Roop, I do not have him on my database as wounded prior to that but may have missed him on my search. Ill have another look but doubt it, can you confirm he was from Hull or is this where his fiancee was? His initial number of 47 would suggest he joined up at the East Hull barracks. If his NOK was elsewhere and he was wounded he may not be recorded in Hull. Saying this to be buried in General Cemetery you bought the plot freehold and at a pretty penny. Happy New Year Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 31 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 31 December , 2005 (edited) Charles, Arthur was born in Willesden Middlesex but had been in Hull (Sculcoates) from being a boy. When you say his number indicates joining at East Hull barracks , how do you mean?? Certainly that was thier base but also had recuruits sent from City Hall and Wenlock etc so far as I can tell. Roop Edited 31 December , 2005 by KONDOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted 31 December , 2005 Share Posted 31 December , 2005 Roop, Captain Williams RNR Commanding Officer of the 1st HHB attested the first 80 specially picked men at the East Hull Barracks. City Hall wasn’t opened for recruiting until the 6th September 1914 this for the formation of the 2nd Hull Battalion. I have no doubt men where sent to the Hull heavy Batteries if they fitted their bill. Regards Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KONDOA Posted 31 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 31 December , 2005 Thanks Charles, that is a useful snippet , I shall see who it refers to now on my database. Roop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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