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8th or 12th Royal Scots Fusiliers - Anyone have a Diary?


barrieduncan

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Hi peeps,

Hoping someone can help here. I have a memorial card for a Private Alexander McNeil #13982 (fought as Alexander Allan/Allen) of the 12th RSF who died of gas poisoning on the 29/8/18 at the 55th Field Hospital, France.

On one of his MiC it puts him as 8th Battalion but on the family memorial card it is the 12th, so i'm not sure which one is right.

I would like to know if anyone has a war diary for either battalion that makes mention of any gas attacks around august of 1918. For all I know he may have been ill for a long time or it may have been a matter of days but I need to start somewhere. Any help would be great.

Also, i'm curious, if he died in a field hospital, why doesn't he have a grave?

Thanks

Barrie

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Hi Barrie

On the CWGC Website it states that he was 12th Battalion

Name: McNEIL

Initials: A

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment: Royal Scots Fusiliers

Unit Text: 12th Bn.

Age: 36

Date of Death: 29/08/1918

Service No: 13982

Additional information: (served as ALLAN). Son of Thomas and Jane Allan McNeil, of Hamilton, Lanarkshire.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 23.

Cemetery: TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE

Country: France

Locality: Pas de Calais

From the SDGW it gives the following information.

Alexander Allan

13982

12th Battalion

Royal Scots Fusiliers

Born. Blantyre

Enlisted. Methil, Fifeshire

Resided. Hamilton

Died of Wounds

France and Flanders

I think that is a grave reference "Grave/Memorial Reference: II. F. 23." that's shown on the CWGC comemoration.

The only account I have of the 12th Battalion around the dates you say, come from The History of the RSF by John Buchan, which isn't much.

May - July 1918

"The 12th royal Scots Fusiliers, in the 229th Brigade of the 74th Division, after much strenuos work in Palestine in the first months of 1918, embarked, under Lt-Col W. T. R. Houldsworth, at Alexandria on the 30th of April, and on arrival in France became part of the 94th Brigade in the 31st Division. In june and July they were in the Bailleul area, opperating under the orders of the 92nd Brigade, and for the most part engaged in patrol duties."

There is no other reference to the 12th Battalion RSF after these dates.

PPCLI (Stuart) Gives an indication as to which War Diarys survive here

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Hi Guys,

Thanks very much for your help. I had not realised that reference number was for a grave, I thought it was for a memorial, silly me :)

I looked up the link to the other post listed and I think I will pop into the RHF museum in Glasgow to see if they can shed any further light on it all.

Malcom, do you have the names of the other soldiers who died on that day? And sorry for asking but what is SNWM?

Thanks again for all your help,

Barrie

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Sorry, a total of three.

Surname ALLAN

Firstname Alexander

Service Number 13982

Date Death 29/08/1918

Decoration

Place of birth Blantyre

Other 12th Bn.

SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS

Rank Pte

Theatre of death F.& F.

Surname BARNES

Firstname Frank

Service Number 295651

Date Death 29/08/1918

Decoration

Place of birth

Other 12th Bn.

SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS

Rank Pte

Theatre of death F.& F.

Surname DEMPSTER

Firstname George

Service Number 37943

Date Death 29/08/1918

Decoration

Place of birth Govan Lanark

Other latterly 26436 2/5th Bn. The Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment).

SNWM roll THE ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS

Rank Pte

Theatre of death F.& F. (probably 12th Bn)

Aye

Malcolm

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Thanks for that Malcolm,

Thats an excellent site, never even knew it existed.

Barrie

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