Grey Squirrel Posted 9 December , 2005 Share Posted 9 December , 2005 Another abbreviation... again from the GRO's WW1 other ranks death indexes on www.1837online.com "RNLR"... anyone know who they are? Am I right in thinking that the North Lancashire Regiment was Loyal not Royal and therefore it can't be them? Or could the GRO have misindexed all LNLR men under RNLR by mistake? Thanks for any advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Maier Posted 9 December , 2005 Share Posted 9 December , 2005 Could be a typo for RNVR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 10 December , 2005 Share Posted 10 December , 2005 Grey Squirrel, Correct it should LNLR and RNLR, its a common sight in SDGW and other sources. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Squirrel Posted 10 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 10 December , 2005 Thanks for the responses. I've just checked against CWGC the first five casualties I came across indexed by the GRO as having served with "RNLR" (images of these WW1 death indexes are online at www.1837online.com). These are: John Jagger, Pte 13642, died 1917 Abner James, Pte 27493, died 1917 Donald James, Pte 10827 died 1918 Albert Jameson, L/Cpl 1069, died 1915 Albert Jarvis, Cpl 34459 died 1918 CWGC gives the regiment for each of these five men as the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. There are no "LNLR" entries that I can see on the same pages in the GRO indexes. It therefore seems that "RNLR" must represent LNLR. Was the Loyal NLR also known as the Royal NLR? It just seems odd that an official government body such as the GRO would consistently use the abbreviation RNLR for the LNLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compo Posted 10 December , 2005 Share Posted 10 December , 2005 ... seems odd that an official government body such as the GRO would consistently use the abbreviation RNLR for the LNLR. Chinese transcriber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Walsh Posted 10 December , 2005 Share Posted 10 December , 2005 I'm fairly certain I've come across that before and it was Royal Naval something Reserve. Waiting to be proven wrong. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 12 December , 2005 Share Posted 12 December , 2005 If they are listed with army ranks, it is unlikely that they are from the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Squirrel Posted 12 December , 2005 Author Share Posted 12 December , 2005 I've just checked against CWGC the first five casualties I came across indexed by the GRO as having served with "RNLR" (images of these WW1 death indexes are online at www.1837online.com). These are: John Jagger, Pte 13642, died 1917 Abner James, Pte 27493, died 1917 Donald James, Pte 10827 died 1918 Albert Jameson, L/Cpl 1069, died 1915 Albert Jarvis, Cpl 34459 died 1918 CWGC gives the regiment for each of these five men as the Loyal North Lancashire Regiment. There are no "LNLR" entries that I can see on the same pages in the GRO indexes. It therefore seems that "RNLR" must represent LNLR. Was the Loyal NLR also known as the Royal NLR? It just seems odd that an official government body such as the GRO would consistently use the abbreviation RNLR for the LNLR. As you can see, they are definitely LNLR men indexed by GRO as RNLR. It seems peculiar to me but I just wondered whether anyone better informed than me knew if the Loyals were also known as the Royals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 12 December , 2005 Share Posted 12 December , 2005 Grey Squirrel, It appears to be a common issue with the Loyals and I've seen it in AVL's, Newspapers and so on, even as far back as the Boer War. The only other time I've seen the term Loyal used in a regimental title is among Militia/Volunteer units in the late 1700's and early 1800's i.e. "Loyal Glendale Rangers"; "Loyal Usworth Legion" and so on. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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