Naval Ranks -- Stoker ratings

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Boy 2nd Class = initial entry

Boy 1st Class = 16-18, usually- could go to sea

Stoker 2nd Class = basic grade

Stoker 1st Class = stoker with some competence, by WWI it seems that a stoker was advanced to this grade after 2 years service

Leading Stoker

Stoker Petty Officer

Stoker Chief Petty Officer

[joseph]

Petty Officer Stoker

Chief Petty Officer Stoker

Charles

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Stoker Petty Officer - abreviated SPO

Stoker Chief Petty Officer - abreviated Ch Sto

[joseph]

Sorry, not aware you want abreviations there are four on the National Archives for a Petty Officer in the Engineering Branch Stoker class. Not including Stoker Mechanic which although a none substantive rate and removed in 1907 was still extant during the Great War.

Charles

[joseph]

No boys in the Engineering Branch Stoker Class

Charles

[joseph]

The Royal Navy had four branches Millitary,Engineering,Medical and Accountant each of which was devided into classes of rating.

The Engineering Branch consisted of three Classes(Departments) Stokers, Artisans and Artificers all of which had there own rank structure.

[joseph]

Kings Regulations & Admiralty Instructions 1913 Chapters V. VI, VII, and VIII also AppendixXV.

Gunnery and Torpedo where both classed under Military Branch

Mechanic ranks where used in the motor boats but the where RNVR

Have only seen Boys with the prefix J but stand to be corrected

[joseph]

KR&AI 1913 Chapter III Section 1

169. Military Branch.-The Military Branch is comprised of the undermentioned officers who, with the exception hereinafter mentioned, shall rank and command in the following order:-

1.

Admirals of the Fleet.

2.

Admirals.

3.

Vice-Admirals.

4.

Rear-Admirals.

5.

Commodores.

6.

Captains.

7.

Commanders.

8.

Lieutenants.

9.

Sub-Lieutenants.

10.

Chief Gunners.

11

Chief Boatswains.

According to dates of commissions.

. 12.

Chief Signal Boatswains.

13.

Commissioned Telegraphists.

114.

Gunners.

15.

Boatswains.

16.

Signal Boatswains.

According to dates of warrants.

17.

Warrant Telegraphists.

18.

Chief Masters-at-Arms.

19.

Midshipmen.

20.

Naval Cadets.

[joseph]

I did miss a Branch "Naval Instructers Branch" which again had its own rank structure.

[joseph]

Rank structure Engineering Branch Stoker Class

Mechanician

Chief Stoker

Stoker Petty officer

Stoker Petty Officer (2nd Class) (OS)

Leading Stoker

Acting Leading Stoker

Stoker 1st Class

Stoker 2nd Class

Regards Charles

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There were also acting Stoker Petty Officers & CPOs too; it was not a substantive rank, which is why I didn't include it.

Whilst PO2 can be seen on pre WWI service records, as they had been phased out, I didn’t include them.

Thanks for the list of officers, but wouldn’t that be better in a separate officers thread?

[joseph]

Good Morning Fred and a merry Xmas,

Just popped it in as the book says, Ill scan it in and post it.

If you wish to start a thread on the Royal Navys Millitary Branch Im sure I could give an you an input.

PO 2nd Class was still a subsantive rank as the book says until it died out.

Regards Charles

[joseph]

Engineering Branch Stoker Class.

KR & AI 1913 Appendix XV.

The numbers on the right is the order in the rank and command structure.

PO 2nd class was ordered to die out on the 1st of October 1907 but continued to be a substantive rate.

Regards Charles

[joseph]

Lots of post removed from this thread any reason why?

Regards Charles

[mirren101]

Hi

i had a set Of 3 WW1 medals for 306846 J H Coulman  SPO RN

I'm trying to find the ship ships he served on 

any help would be much appreciated 

thanks

Rob

Edited 12 September , 2019 by mirren101
Mistakes

[horatio2]

Here is Coiulman's record of service:-  https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6772492

[mirren101]

Hi

many thanks that’s great but cannot see which ships he served on

cheers Rob

[horatio2]

They are all llisted by name in the column headed "Ships, etc. served in" and the dates in the column head "Period of service". E.g. HMS VIVID III - 11 Jul 1904 to 20 Dec 1904. Obviously you have to download the record  first (see ordering and viewing options) or use the PREVIEW facility..

Edited 12 September , 2019 by horatio2

[mirren101]

Thanks that’s brilliant Rob