Stebie9173 Posted 2 October , 2005 Share Posted 2 October , 2005 Hi, Annie. I'm posting this here to avoid an enormous post in the other Topic. And I'm sure people can add to the information here. Extracts from the London Gazette on the career of Robert Cecil Trousdale from 1900 onwards. LG 10-9-1901 Mentioned in Despatches. Lieutenant R. C. Trousdale, South Lancashire Regiment. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= And page 1 for the descriptions: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 17-1-1902 DSO: 1ST SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT. Lieutenant R. C. Trousdale For the plucky way he worked the maxim gun during the attack on Fort Itala, on 26th September, 1901, after both the men with him had been killed. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 25-3-1904 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), The undermentioned Lieutenants to be Captains:— Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., vice W. E. S. Tyler, promoted. Dated 28th February, 1904. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 22-9-1905 ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE. Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), to be an Officer of a Company of Gentlemen Cadets, vice Captain F. W. Foley. D.S.O., The Princess of Wales's (Royal Berkshire Regiment), whose tenure of that appointment has expired. Dated 18th September, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 3-10-1905 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., is seconded for service on the Staff. Dated 18th September, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 5-1-1906 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Supernumerary Captain D'Orville B. Dawson, to be Captain, vice R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., seconded. Dated 16th December, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 24-9-1909 ESTABLISHMENTS. Royal Military College, Captain William C. Curgenven, The South Wales Borderers, to be an Officer of a Company of Gentlemen Cadets, vice Captain R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South. Lancashire Regiment) whose tenure of that appointment has expired. .Dated 18th September, 1909. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 3-12-1909 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Supernumerary Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., is restored to the establishment, on augmentation. Dated ,4th December, 1909. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 26-3-1912 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., retires on retired pay. Dated 27th March, 1912. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 13-4-1915 SPECIAL APPOINTMENTS. (Graded for purposes of pay as General Staff Officers, 3rd Grade). Captain R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Reserve of Officers. Dated 31st January, 1915. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 24-9-1915 Assistant Provost Marshals— (Graded for purposes of pay as Staff Captains.) Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Reserve of Officers, vice Major L. B. Halliday, The Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment). Dated 1st September, 1915. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 16-6-1916 Asst. Prov. Marshals (Graded for purposes of pay as a D.A.A.G.). — (Graded for purposes of pay as Staff Capts.). — Temp. Capt. F. P. Smith, R. Lane. R., and to be transf'd. to the Gen. List, vice Capt. '(temp- Maj.) R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Res. of Off. 16th May 1916. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 12-1-1918 INFANTRY. The undermentioned Capts. (temp. Majors) to be Majors, but not to carry pay or allowances of that rank prior to 1st July 1917, unless holding temp, or actg. higher rank with pay and allowances: — S. Lan. R.—R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O. 8th Jan. 1916. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 1-1-1919 Awarded Miltary Cross Capt. (T./Maj.) Robert Cecil Trousdale, D.S.O., R. of O., S. Lan. R. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 14-11-1919 Asst. Prov. Marshal (Cl. BB).—Temp. Lt. (temp. Capt.) F. N. Fane, O.B.E., Gen. List, and to be temp. Maj. whilst so empld., vice Maj. R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., ret. pay, Res. of Off. 31st Jan. 1919. (Substituted for the notification in the Gazette of 7th Apr. 1919.) http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 11-6-1926 P.W. Vols.—Maj. R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., M.C., having attained the age limit of liability to recall, ceases to belong to the Res. of Off. 4th June 1926. Hope there is something in there of use... Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool annie Posted 2 October , 2005 Share Posted 2 October , 2005 Hi, Annie. I'm posting this here to avoid an enormous post in the other Topic. And I'm sure people can add to the information here. Extracts from the London Gazette on the career of Robert Cecil Trousdale from 1900 onwards. LG 10-9-1901 Mentioned in Despatches. Lieutenant R. C. Trousdale, South Lancashire Regiment. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= And page 1 for the descriptions: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 17-1-1902 DSO: 1ST SOUTH LANCASHIRE REGIMENT. Lieutenant R. C. Trousdale For the plucky way he worked the maxim gun during the attack on Fort Itala, on 26th September, 1901, after both the men with him had been killed. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 25-3-1904 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), The undermentioned Lieutenants to be Captains:— Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., vice W. E. S. Tyler, promoted. Dated 28th February, 1904. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 22-9-1905 ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE. Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), to be an Officer of a Company of Gentlemen Cadets, vice Captain F. W. Foley. D.S.O., The Princess of Wales's (Royal Berkshire Regiment), whose tenure of that appointment has expired. Dated 18th September, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 3-10-1905 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., is seconded for service on the Staff. Dated 18th September, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 5-1-1906 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Supernumerary Captain D'Orville B. Dawson, to be Captain, vice R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., seconded. Dated 16th December, 1905. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 24-9-1909 ESTABLISHMENTS. Royal Military College, Captain William C. Curgenven, The South Wales Borderers, to be an Officer of a Company of Gentlemen Cadets, vice Captain R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South. Lancashire Regiment) whose tenure of that appointment has expired. .Dated 18th September, 1909. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 3-12-1909 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Supernumerary Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., is restored to the establishment, on augmentation. Dated ,4th December, 1909. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 26-3-1912 The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South Lancashire Regiment), Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., retires on retired pay. Dated 27th March, 1912. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 13-4-1915 SPECIAL APPOINTMENTS. (Graded for purposes of pay as General Staff Officers, 3rd Grade). Captain R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Reserve of Officers. Dated 31st January, 1915. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 24-9-1915 Assistant Provost Marshals— (Graded for purposes of pay as Staff Captains.) Captain Robert C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Reserve of Officers, vice Major L. B. Halliday, The Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment). Dated 1st September, 1915. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 16-6-1916 Asst. Prov. Marshals (Graded for purposes of pay as a D.A.A.G.). — (Graded for purposes of pay as Staff Capts.). — Temp. Capt. F. P. Smith, R. Lane. R., and to be transf'd. to the Gen. List, vice Capt. '(temp- Maj.) R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., Res. of Off. 16th May 1916. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 12-1-1918 INFANTRY. The undermentioned Capts. (temp. Majors) to be Majors, but not to carry pay or allowances of that rank prior to 1st July 1917, unless holding temp, or actg. higher rank with pay and allowances: — S. Lan. R.—R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O. 8th Jan. 1916. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 1-1-1919 Awarded Miltary Cross Capt. (T./Maj.) Robert Cecil Trousdale, D.S.O., R. of O., S. Lan. R. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 14-11-1919 Asst. Prov. Marshal (Cl. BB).—Temp. Lt. (temp. Capt.) F. N. Fane, O.B.E., Gen. List, and to be temp. Maj. whilst so empld., vice Maj. R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., ret. pay, Res. of Off. 31st Jan. 1919. (Substituted for the notification in the Gazette of 7th Apr. 1919.) http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= ---- LG 11-6-1926 P.W. Vols.—Maj. R. C. Trousdale, D.S.O., M.C., having attained the age limit of liability to recall, ceases to belong to the Res. of Off. 4th June 1926. Hope there is something in there of use... Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Steve ! What can I say? that far surpasses anything I expected! - thank you so very much !! You're a good man! Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 2 October , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 October , 2005 Annie. Aaaarggh! The "DSO" post is not actually his DSO but the reason for his MID. However, I would think that the DSO was probably for the same action, or service including the action. Not having seen an MID citation before threw me a bit! That and the Fort Itala mention. Sorry, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 2 October , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 October , 2005 One DSO announcement: LG 31-10-1902. The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South- Lancashire Regiment). To be a Companion of, the Distinguished Service Order. Lieutenant Robert Cecil Trousdale. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= Trousdale came out as "rrousdale" on the search. No wonder it was hiding well... Citation still hiding. If there is one... Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool annie Posted 3 October , 2005 Share Posted 3 October , 2005 One DSO announcement: LG 31-10-1902. The Prince of Wales's Volunteers (South- Lancashire Regiment). To be a Companion of, the Distinguished Service Order. Lieutenant Robert Cecil Trousdale. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...&selHonourType= Trousdale came out as "/rrousdale" on the search. No wonder it was hiding well... Citation still hiding. If there is one... Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Steve! Maybe there isn't one - I have Ich Dien and it just says under DSO's Major R C Trousdale DSO (where it's supposed to have date of London Gazette ) it says Bar and then DSO awarded in SA War R of Officers PW Vols Everybody else has a date!! but he is also listed under Military Cross! Major R C Trousdale DSO 1/1/1919 P of W Vols R of officers (DSO in 1902) Does that help?? Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 3 October , 2005 Author Share Posted 3 October , 2005 The "Bar" bit is the 2nd award date 1-1-1919 (as in DSO and Bar). The date is the New Year's Honours. Since he'd been a Staff Officer and not in the field for most of the War he would have got that for doing his job well rather than any act of gallantry. R of officers will be Reserve of Officers. P of W Vols is obviously Prince of Wales Volunteers. It looks like he got the DSO twice (1902, possibly for gallantry,and 1919 as a service award), but not the MC. I've searched for about 10 of the other DSOs mentioned on the same page and can't find a citation for any of them. It looks like neither DSO has a direct citation. I would still favour his MID action as at least part of the reason for his DSO award. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool annie Posted 3 October , 2005 Share Posted 3 October , 2005 The "Bar" bit is the 2nd award date 1-1-1919 (as in DSO and Bar). The date is the New Year's Honours. Since he'd been a Staff Officer and not in the field for most of the War he would have got that for doing his job well rather than any act of gallantry. R of officers will be Reserve of Officers. P of W Vols is obviously Prince of Wales Volunteers. It looks like he got the DSO twice (1902, possibly for gallantry,and 1919 as a service award), but not the MC. I've searched for about 10 of the other DSOs mentioned on the same page and can't find a citation for any of them. It looks like neither DSO has a direct citation. I would still favour his MID action as at least part of the reason for his DSO award. Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Steve! How weird !! That he got the DSO twice .... I haven't got his medal card yet - I should huh? wonder what that would say? like I said the MC was in the "Ich Dien" - so I thought that was a given!! Well thanks so much for all your looking! I appreciate it! Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 3 October , 2005 Author Share Posted 3 October , 2005 What am I talking about! One of the postings I made was for his MC. Gazette of 1-1-1919. Ignore what I said. It looks like it was an MC and not a bar to his DSO. I shouldn't really post these things in my breaks at work. You end up posting things without checking them! The Bar comment on his entry in Ich Dien is intriguing but there doesn't seem to be a reference to it elsewhere. I just jumped to conclusions. Bad habit. Apologies for the confusion, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liverpool annie Posted 3 October , 2005 Share Posted 3 October , 2005 What am I talking about! One of the postings I made was for his MC. Gazette of 1-1-1919. Ignore what I said. It looks like it was an MC and not a bar to his DSO. I shouldn't really post these things in my breaks at work. You end up posting things without checking them! The Bar comment on his entry in Ich Dien is intriguing but there doesn't seem to be a reference to it elsewhere. I just jumped to conclusions. Bad habit. Apologies for the confusion, Steve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm the only one that's allowed "DUH" moments .....! Plus I'm watching a program of the WW1 - in colour! so I'm a little distracted too! Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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