mebu Posted 11 September , 2005 Share Posted 11 September , 2005 Researching a Capt J Geldard, RMLI. Record says was attached to "Talbot".... "17-20 Dec 15 at 'HONYSUCKLE' for SNO off ANZAC for evacuation" Presumably SNO was Senior Naval Oficer Was recommended for DSC but record says " 2246/33, Question re DSC, not awarded" Can anyone help with what was Honysuckle and what she did for evacuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 12 September , 2005 Share Posted 12 September , 2005 HMS HONEYSUCKLE was a Flower Class Sloop launched on 29 April 1915 serving in the Gallipoli evacuation she was sold off in 1922. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 13 September , 2005 Share Posted 13 September , 2005 The "Talbot" was a cruiser which was part of the naval reinforcements for the Anzac evacuation. The Senior Naval Officer at Anzac was Captain A D Boyle in the sloop "Honeysuckle", commanded by Lt-Commander White. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 14 September , 2005 Author Share Posted 14 September , 2005 Dave, David, thanks for your help....I presume a sloop is a small craft? Any idea what she did for evacuation? Any ideas welcome, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lowrey Posted 14 September , 2005 Share Posted 14 September , 2005 Peter, Sloops were of reasonable size. Honeysuckle displaced 1,200 tons and was 250 feet long with a beam of 33 feet, so slightly shorter than the latest WWI destroyers but of the same or slightly greater displacement. Conway's gives the crew size as 90. Typical uses included minesweeping and convoy escort. Best wishes, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 14 September , 2005 Share Posted 14 September , 2005 (edited) ‘Janes Fighting Ships of WWI’ has the foll.on the Flower Classes of Sloops – 3 types making a total of 56 ships Honeysuckle belonged to the ‘Acasia’ Type which consisted of 21 ships “All were of 1200 tons. Completed May-Sept 1915. Dimentions: (250 p.p.), 262,1/2 (o.a.) X 33 X 11 (mean), 11,1/4 – 12 feet (max. draught). Designed to mount 2-12 pdr. And 2-3 pdr. A.A. Some still armed in this way: others have (a) 2-4 inch, ( 1-4 inch, © 1-4 inch and 1-12 pdr., (d) 2-12 pdr., with or without the 2-3 pdr. One or two armed only with 1 or 2-3 pdr, Designed H.P. 1400 or 1800 = 17 kts., but actually require about 2200 I.H.P. for this speed. Machinery: 1 set 4-cylinder triple expansion. Boilers: 2 cylindrical. 1 screw. Coal: 130 tons normal, 250 tons max. = about 2000 miles at 15 kts. Complement, 77. Also see General Notes.” “General Notes to ‘Arabis,’ ‘Azalea, and ‘Acasia’ Types. – Single screw Fleet Sweeping Vessels (Sloops), all built under Emergency War Programme. Popularly known as the ‘Flower Class,’ but are also referred to as the ‘Cabbage Class,’ or ‘Herbaceous Borders’. Have triple hulls at bows to give extra protection against loss when working up mines. Very successful ships, but can only make designed speed with difficulty. Good sea-boats. Copies of this class were built in British yards for the French navy. The last of the ‘flowers’ converted to convoy Sloops (q.v.). Several mined during the war and rebuilt.” Hope that this is of interest Regards Michael D.R. Sorry about the smily - this prog does not like 'brackets-b-brackets'; I also seem to have a problem with vulgar fractions Edited 14 September , 2005 by michaeldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historydavid Posted 15 September , 2005 Share Posted 15 September , 2005 mebu, there is no mention of Honeysuckle's particular activities during the evacuation of troops in the account that I have (it's rather abreviated), but I would imagine that she took the SNO around the area to see whatever he wanted, so that he could monitor that everything was proceeding according to plan. She would also have acted as receiving station for any messages being made to the SNO. Best wishes David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 15 September , 2005 Share Posted 15 September , 2005 The British OH gives one mention to the ‘Honeysuckle’ confirming the info already supplied by David “In the naval orders for the final stage of the evacuations Admiral Wemyss appointed Captain C. F. Corbett, RN, in the ‘Anemone,’ to superintend the withdrawal from Suvla, and Captain Hon. A. D. Boyle, RN, in the ‘Honeysuckle,' to superintend that from Anzac. Captain E. Unwin VC, RN, would be Naval Transport Officer at Suvla, assisted by Acting-Commander G. F. A. Mulock, RN, at C Beach, and Captain C. M. Staveley, RN, would be Naval Transport Officer at Anzac.” Regards Michael D.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mebu Posted 15 September , 2005 Author Share Posted 15 September , 2005 Many thanks for info David and Michael....looks like the Marines Captain Geldard did something to warrant recommendation for DSC while working with Honeysuckle....but like so many deeds of the period, lost to history now. Thanks, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wrighty Posted 27 September , 2005 Share Posted 27 September , 2005 HMS Honeysuckle was built by Lobnitz & Co. Renfrew (on the Clyde) yard no. 801 in 1915......listed as a minesweeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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