Remembered Today

[Malcolm]

Surname TELFORD

Firstname John

Service number 14742

Date of death 13/08/1915

Decoration

Place of birth Carlisle

Other 1st Bn.

SNWM roll THE KING'S OWN SCOTTISH BORDERERS

Rank Pte

Theatre of death At Sea.

Name: TELFORD, JOHN

Initials: J

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment: King's Own Scottish Borderers

Unit Text: 1st Bn.

Age: 33

Date of Death: 13/08/1915

Service No: 14742

Additional information: Son of James and Isabella Telford, of I, Scott's Place, Milbourne St., Carlisle.

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 84 to 92 or 220 to 222.

Cemetery: HELLES MEMORIAL

Cemetery: HELLES MEMORIAL

Country: Turkey

Locality: unspecified

Visiting Information: The Panel Numbers quoted at the end of each entry relate to the panels dedicated to the Regiment served with. In some instances where a casualty is recorded as attached to another Regiment, his name may alternatively appear within their Regimental Panels. Please refer to the on-site Memorial Register Introduction to determine the alternative panel numbers if you do not find the name within the quoted Panels.

Location Information: The Helles Memorial stands on the tip of the Gallipoli Peninsula. It takes the form of an obelisk over 30 metres high that can be seen by ships passing through the Dardanelles.

Historical Information: The eight month campaign in Gallipoli was fought by Commonwealth and French forces in an attempt to force Turkey out of the war, to relieve the deadlock of the Western Front in France and Belgium, and to open a supply route to Russia through the Dardanelles and the Black Sea. The Allies landed on the peninsula on 25-26 April 1915; the 29th Division at Cape Helles in the south and the Australian and New Zealand Corps north of Gaba Tepe on the west coast, an area soon known as Anzac. On 6 August, further landings were made at Suvla, just north of Anzac, and the climax of the campaign came in early August when simultaneous assaults were launched on all three fronts. However, the difficult terrain and stiff Turkish resistance soon led to the stalemate of trench warfare. From the end of August, no further serious action was fought and the lines remained unchanged. The peninsula was successfully evacuated in December and early January 1916. The Helles Memorial serves the dual function of Commonwealth battle memorial for the whole Gallipoli campaign and place of commemoration for many of those Commonwealth servicemen who died there and have no known grave. The United Kingdom and Indian forces named on the memorial died in operations throughout the peninsula, the Australians at Helles. There are also panels for those who died or were buried at sea in Gallipoli waters. The memorial bears more than 21,000 names. There are four other Memorials to the Missing at Gallipoli. The Lone Pine, Hill 60, and Chunuk Bair Memorials commemorate Australian and New Zealanders at Anzac. The Twelve Tree Copse Memorial commemorates the New Zealanders at Helles. Naval casualties of the United Kingdom lost or buried at sea are recorded on their respective Memorials at Portsmouth, Plymouth and Chatham, in the United Kingdom.

No. of Identified Casualties: 20837

Lost in the sinking of HMT Royal Edward by UB14.

Aye

Malcolm

[spike10764]

A Carlisle Lad, sunk by a U Boat.

I wonder if he was going towards or coming away from the Peninsular

Remembering him today

[The Plummed Goose]

going (wounded) i would say ... unless he was part of "reinforcements".

the 1st KOSB under Koe landed on D-day ... 25th April

eric

PS : would you like me to take a pic malcolm ??

[Malcolm]

Thanks Eric,

Got one already of the Memorial.

Aye

Malcolm

[Steven Broomfield]

That date, almost certainly on the troopship "Royal Edward", en route from Alex with reinforcements. She was an 11,000 ton trans-Atlantic steamer, built (as the 'Cairo' in 1908) for the Canadian Northern Steamship Company and taken up from trade, as the saying goes.

She left Alex, bound for Lemnos, on 12th August, and took course through the Adriatic, thought to be a safe route. At 9.15 a.m. on the 13th she was hit by one torpedo (on the port side), fired by U14. She went down within 5 minutes, taking over 200 men of the Hampshire regiment with her. In all, i think around 800 men wnet down.

600-odd were rescued, by a Hospital ship, 'Soudan', the Blue Funnel SS 'Ajax', and ther French battleship 'Jules Ferry'.

Unluckily for the Royal Edward, U14 had been shipped overland in pieces, and assembled at a new U Boat base in Orak bay.

As a lot of the reinforcements were bound for the 29th Division, I would guess that Private Telford was one of them. My intereset comes from the fact that 8 men from my village died, including two pairs of brothers.