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joan bourgeois

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Hello,

Would someone please tell me, if a man enlisted in Belfast 1914, would his enlisted papers be kept separately from his service records, etc?

Thank you

Joan

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Joan

If you are referring to his attestation papers, that is the formal document which he signed on enlistment, then it formed part of his service record and was not kept separately. However, it does not always follow that that particular document survived, even if various other parts of his record did. This was due to fire damage in WW2 of course.

Terry Reeves

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Joan,

Contrary to belief a soldier actually had two sets of Attestation papers and a complete section called "Records" in Kings Regulations was dedicated to both officers & soldiers services and their documents.

The original set of attestation papers were sent to the officer in-charge of records, while the second set was to accompany the man throughout his service career. The officer i/c records was to be furnished with information for "keeping these records completed and up to date", and the information was to displayed on Part II Orders.

Regulations also listed what documents were to accompany the original and duplicate set of papers. The second attestation paper which went with you to your unit was to be included in A.F.(Army Form) B.278, along with A.F. B.120(Conduct Sheet); A.F. B.103(Active Service Casualty Sheet); A.F. B.282(Compulsory Stoppages); A.F. B.2066(Employment Sheet) & A.F. B.64(Transfer to Reserve).

The soldiers documents that survived the Blitz are without a doubt some of the most important documents relating to individuals in our entire history as a nation. Had it not been for the Great War and the never ending task of sorting out pensions and so on during the post war years they would never have survived as there is also in Kings Regulations two pages dedicated to the "Disposal of Documents" relating to soldiers most of which would have been destroyed after 15years.

This leaves us with the question, if they had two sets what happend to the other set, were K.R.'s carried out to the letter and all of the other set destroyed?

Graham.

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Joan

If you are referring to his attestation papers, that is the formal document which he signed on enlistment, then it formed part of his service record and was not kept separately.  However, it does not always follow that that particular document survived, even if various other parts of his record did. This was due to fire damage in WW2 of course.

Terry Reeves

Hi Terry,

Thanks very much for your info.

Joan

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Joan,

Contrary to belief a soldier actually had two sets of Attestation papers and a complete section called "Records" in Kings Regulations was dedicated to both officers & soldiers services and their documents.

The original set of attestation papers were sent to the officer in-charge of records, while the second set was to accompany the man throughout his service career. The officer i/c records was to be furnished with information for "keeping these records completed and up to date", and the information was to displayed on Part II Orders.

Regulations also listed what documents were to accompany the original and duplicate set of papers. The second attestation paper which went with you to your unit was to be included in A.F.(Army Form) B.278, along with A.F. B.120(Conduct Sheet); A.F. B.103(Active Service Casualty Sheet); A.F. B.282(Compulsory Stoppages); A.F. B.2066(Employment Sheet) & A.F. B.64(Transfer to Reserve).

The soldiers documents that survived the Blitz are without a doubt some of the most important documents relating to individuals in our entire history as a nation. Had it not been for the Great War and the never ending task of sorting out pensions and so on during the post war years they would never have survived as there is also in Kings Regulations two pages dedicated to the "Disposal of Documents" relating to soldiers most of which would have been destroyed after 15years.

This leaves us with the question, if they had two sets what happend to the other set, were K.R.'s carried out to the letter and all of the other set destroyed?

Graham.

Hello Graham,

Wow!!

Thank you very much for the above detailed information, but, where oh where,

is the other set???

Joan

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