PFF Posted 29 July , 2005 Share Posted 29 July , 2005 Have reports of 3 Germans died WWI (two of them are German Memorial Cards) 1) Holzinger, Joseph died 23 April 1915-2nd Company/6th Infantry Regiment. 2) Schulz, "Muskiteer"(?) died 10/9/1916-6th Com/370th(?) Infantry Regiment 3 Upfelbecf, Otto died 11 August 1917-age 37 killed in Romania (Sorry-card is very fancy German script which I can't read German) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 29 July , 2005 Share Posted 29 July , 2005 If it would help you, try scanning and posting them and one of us who can read the old script will try to translate them for you. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFF Posted 31 July , 2005 Author Share Posted 31 July , 2005 Will try to post pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 31 July , 2005 Share Posted 31 July , 2005 Sorry, can't work from those. Please try to scan and post them separately, so we have more bytes to work with. Only the bits with the words on matter for this, preferably blown up somewhat, then I am sure I could give you a translation. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFF Posted 2 August , 2005 Author Share Posted 2 August , 2005 "Apfelbeef " possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKerm Posted 2 August , 2005 Share Posted 2 August , 2005 Zur frommen Erinnerung im Gebete an den ehrengeachteten Jüngling Herrn Otto Apfelbeck Bauerssohn aus Gergwies Soldat in einem Infanterie-Regiment welcher durch einen Bauchschuß bei einem Sturmangriff im Sustatal in Rumänien am 11. August 1917 im Alter von 37 Jahren den Heldentod für's Vaterland starb. Beim heißen Kampf im Feindesland Traf dich die Todeswunde Die Liebenheim, im Heimatland Traf schwer die bittere Kunde O Herr gib ihm die ewige Ruhe The script is called Fraktura and the common printing font of this time. If a native -or nearly native- speaker wants to translate the text, please feel free. Otherwise I would try my best later! Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 2 August , 2005 Share Posted 2 August , 2005 Frank Thanks for the transliteration. Try the second! The first one reads 'In devout and prayerful memory of the highly regarded young man, Herr Otto Apfelbeck, a farmer's son from Gergwies; a private soldier in an infantry regiment who, as a result of a stomach wound received during an assault in Sustatal, Romania on 11th August 1917 died a hero's death for the Fatherland at the age of 37. [Literal meaning of the verse is:] In the heat of battle in enemy territory,You were mortally wounded The bitter news was a terrible blow to the loving home back in the homeland. [The sense and rhythm of the verse which, though heartfelt, is not great poetry would come out in English something like:] In a foreign land on the battlefield You received the mortal hit When news reached home, all those you loved, Could scarcely cope with it. Oh Lord, grant him eternal rest.' Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 2 August , 2005 Share Posted 2 August , 2005 I have had a go at the second one, though I have had some trouble making out some of the words. It reads 'In devout memory in prayer of the highly regarded young man Joseph Holzinger, son of a farmer from ...? A reservist of 9th Company of the 6th Infantry Regiment , who died the death of a hero for the Fatherland at the age of 28 during an assault on 28th April 1915. RIP. Sweet heart of Jesus be my [salvation?]. Merciful Jesus grant him eternal rest. [These short prayers of intercession, associated with Catholicism, tend to strengthen the thought that he might have been in a Bavarian regiment, as does the fact that 6th Bavarian Infantry Regiment was involved in a series of assualts on the French near St Mihiel at this time.] Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFF Posted 3 August , 2005 Author Share Posted 3 August , 2005 Thanks!! HOlzinger card at right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKerm Posted 3 August , 2005 Share Posted 3 August , 2005 be my [salvation?]. (Rettung=salvation) He came from Trefling (Oberpfalz , region of Bavaria) This death cards were mainly coomon in Bavaria. Over 90 % of them relate to Bavarian soldiers, so the units are in general Bavarian. But sometimes you have to be careful. Some Bavarian habitants served in Prussian units or in units from Württemberg as well. I saw also such cards related to Prussian soldiers. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 3 August , 2005 Share Posted 3 August , 2005 The caption on the left hand panel is in latin and comprises the final words of Jesus on the cross as reported by St John (chapter 19, verse 30) 'It is finished'. The words of the middle panel are presumably attributed to the Virgin Mary, though I cannot make out the reference. She is saying, 'I will comfort you with a mother's tender love' and I cannot read the right hand panel - sorry. Try another scan! Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 3 August , 2005 Share Posted 3 August , 2005 The caption on the left hand panel is in latin and comprises the final words of Jesus on the cross as reported by St John (chapter 19, verse 30) 'It is finished'. The words of the middle panel are presumably attributed to the Virgin Mary, though I cannot make out the reference. She is saying, 'I will comfort you with a mother's tender love' and I cannot read the right hand panel - sorry. Try another scan! Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFF Posted 3 August , 2005 Author Share Posted 3 August , 2005 The lone card reads: "SIE WAREN BEREIT FUR (umlat) GESETZ UND VATERLAND ZU STERBEN" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Sheldon Posted 3 August , 2005 Share Posted 3 August , 2005 'They were prepared to die for the Rule of Law and the Fatherland' Rule of law? That'sa new one on me! Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now