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Remembered Today:

Arthur F. Martin


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Here's what I know. Would be very grateful for a lookup.

Arthur F. Martin

Born 1894, Southwark or Lambeth, not sure which.

Was living in Massachusetts, USA when he volunteered.

Died in the war, always assumed it was Western Front, but don't know for sure.

Regards

JimmyFinn

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Hello Jimmy

Welcome to the forum.

Did he volunteer for the US or British army?

Andy

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2 possibles from SDGW,

Cadet Arthur Francis Martin Royal Artillery

Born=Camden Town

En= Marylebone

Died at Home Sept 4th 1918.

and,

Rifleman Arthur Frederick Martin

9th bn Rifle Bde

Born=London

En=Manchester

Lived=Salford

KIA Aug 29th 1916.

Bob.

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Guest JimmyFinn

Thank you Andy and Bob.

The family story has always been that he went back to England to join British Army to fight in the war. He moved to the US with his mother and siblings around 1910. They were living in Walthamstow before that.

If I had to choose between Bob's possibles, I'd say Rifleman Arthur Frederick Martin, because of the more generic London birthplace. Camden Town doesn't fit anything I know about the family. On the other hand, neither does Manchester or Salford. Hmm.

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Jimmy

Arthur Francis Martin is the son of Arthur Albert and Ada Maude Martin of Hillcroft Orchard, Farnham Royal, Bucks. So probably not him if his mother and siblings emigrated to USA.

I have tried to find if an Arthur Frederick Martin was born in Southwark in about 1894 and then locate the family in 1901. This may be them:

4, Greggs Road, Leyton, Walthamstow

Alfred Martin, aged 33 years, Printer Compositor, born Surrey Waterloo Road

Elizabeth A D Martin, aged 31 years, born Surrey Blackfiars

Arthur F Martin, aged 7 years, born Surrey Blackfriars

Alfred G Martin, aged 5 years, Born Surrey Blackfriars

Nellie M Martin, aged 3 years, Born Surrey Blackfriars

Rose S Martin, aged 11 months, Born Essex Leyton

From the births indexes the first three children's births are registered in St Saviours Southwark as follows:

1894 Arthur Frederick Martin

1896 Alfred Garratt Martin

1898 Nellie Marian Martin

Their parents married in the June Qtr 1893 in St Saviours Southwark

Alfred Martin and Elizabeth Ann D Garratt

If the family details tie in with what you know it looks like he was Arthur Frederick Martin.

He could therefore be Rifleman Arthur Frederick Martin he died 29th August 1916 and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial unfortunately CWGC have no NOK details.

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Pam

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Guest JimmyFinn

That's exactly the fellow Pam. Now that I have a KIA date to work with, I will check local papers from that time.

I can't explain Lived=Salford though. Maybe he signed up with a friend who lived there.

Many thanks.

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Another question if I may: is there a rule of thumb for how long it took for news of the casualty to reach home? Would be closer to weeks, or more like months?

Now I will dive into this wonderful web site and learn a thing or two.

Thanks everyone for such help.

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Jimmy,

I would say weeks rather than months for news to get to the family.

From British Battalions on the Somme, 9th bn Rifle Brigade appear to have been in action around Delville Wood when he was KIA.

Bob.

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