Derek Robertson Posted 29 April , 2005 Share Posted 29 April , 2005 Last year I bought in an auction a medal to a soldier of the 28th Battalion (North-West) CEF who died in 1917 and was buried near his home in Somerset. My interest collecting to the 28th Battalion stems from my Great-grandfather's service in this battalion. The medal was in the name of Pte Gilbert John Patch who was 28 years when he died, the son of Robert and Ann Patch, of Holly Hedge Farm, Felton, Winford, Bristol, Somerset, England. Whilst researching the soldier his name rang a bell in my head but I couldn't quite establish why it did so. That is until this week. Whilst reading part of the 28th Battalion's War Diary I read the following extract for the 17th February, 1917: FGCM for trial of no.782351 Pte.G.J Patch and no.73601 L/Sgt J.P Robertson assembled at H.Q mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 29 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2005 My Great-grandfather and Gilbert Patch were to be tried by Field General Court Martial. And now in my possession was the BWM which had been awarded to Gilbert's parents on his death which I had bought unknowingly. Within less than 24 hours of posting an appeal on the Forum for a picture of Gilbert's grave, Les (Eviltaxman) went out for me and took the following picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 29 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2005 One of the delights of the Forum for me is that total strangers go out of their way to help others without asking anything in return. To Les and the other PALS who came forward to help me find a picture of Gilbert's grave I thank you. Les took another picture of a memorial tablet in the cemetery which carries the name of a William J Patch - possibly a relation of Gilbert's? It's another avenue for me to explore. I now have to find out the reasons for the trial of Gilbert although an initial indication from the Canadian archives is that Gilbert may have acted "to the prejudice of good order and military discipline." I know the reasons for my Great-Grandfather's trial which ended in him losing his stripes and 14 days Field Punishment no.2. However, his secret is also my secret I don't judge or condemn him. He endured more in his 3 years in France than I ever would in a lifetime. Was it fate that brought Gilbert's medal into my possession or was it just a long coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhill Posted 29 April , 2005 Share Posted 29 April , 2005 . . . snip, snip . . . I now have to find out the reasons for the trial of Gilbert although an initial indication from the Canadian archives is that Gilbert may have acted "to the prejudice of good order and military discipline." . . . snip, snip . . . <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Alas! We have few secrets anymore! The Court Martial indexes are on line, here . However, at this late date I doubt anyone thinks any the less of the fellows just because they got into a bit of mischief. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 29 April , 2005 Share Posted 29 April , 2005 Derek, Just glad I could help. There have been a few Pals that have helped me out over the last few months (not necessarily photos) and it was time I repaid a debt. I don't know if this is of use, but I've come across the page the Gilbert is mention - on the 1917 Pages of Rememberance of the CEF. A small copy is below, but I'll e-mail you the full size version. Les. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayne w Posted 29 April , 2005 Share Posted 29 April , 2005 Fate Derek, fate... Well done Les tho for such a quick response! This forum is fab. Jayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Bluestein Posted 29 April , 2005 Share Posted 29 April , 2005 Derek, Brilliant coincidence! These kinds of things come around once in a long while, and only after very good detective work. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Robertson Posted 30 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 30 April , 2005 Alas! We have few secrets anymore! The Court Martial indexes are on line, here . However, at this late date I doubt anyone thinks any the less of the fellows just because they got into a bit of mischief. Just my opinion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In politically correct Britain I doubt whether such records would be freely available in such a manner. There would probably be a 100 year exclusion clause on them. However, I for one am happy that the Candian authorities have made their records available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 30 April , 2005 Share Posted 30 April , 2005 Derek, Congratulations on bringing this story to light, great piece of work. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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