Patrick H Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Ok not many replies to last posting (not complaining !!) so here is a list of all those died in the War who are known to have been members of 1st Warley Company The Boy's Brigade. If any info can be added I would be grateful. (I'm not trying to do this on the cheap- just need some help !!) 1.BLISS F J Sgt 2.BURKETT W Pte born Brentwood, enlisted Warley, dow home 30.8.27 aged 25 7/Essex buried Lorne Rd Cem Warley 3.COWLING Ernest John Pte 24152b. 11/Essex b.South Weald. en Warley kia f & f 17.9.18 aged 30. 4.COPELAND Douglas Chatterton Bruce, MC Captain & Adj 12/London Rangers dow (gas at Villers Bretonneux) 21.6.18 at Reading Hosp. DAINTY Edward Joseph Patten CSM 230936 2/Londons kia 8.11.17 (killed in an accident?) aged 37 DCM gazetted 18,7,17 served Gallipoli ELSEY Ambrose Sgt 2/24 London Regt kia Jerusalem 9.12.17 aged 42 (Also known to have served in Boer War) GORDON Martin G. L/Cpl 7632 kia f&f 13.10.14 2/Essex Buried Bailleul Mil Cem France (reservist called August 1914 having spent 5 years as L/Cpl Instructor at Army School. HALL Albert George Pte G/22453 7/Buffs Regt dow (Ypres) 14.10.17 aged 22 HARMAN Walter A J Pte G63066 23/R Fusiliers (formerly Queens 12088) born Brentwood en Warley HARMAN William Frank, Pte 22551 1/Essex Garrison (formerly 7334 Royal Sussex) died India ? 11.10.15 Portianos Mil Cem Madras HAVILLAND Percy Walter Ambrose Bombadier D4037 Royal Scots Greys died 8.10.18 buried Bellicourt HULL Arthur Pte 41325 10/Lincolns dow 31.8.17 JOSLING (JOSLIN) F O Pte 1/Essex ?? KING Leonard Stanley, Pte Royal Inniskillins kia f&f 20.11.17 MANNING John Frederick Pte (Regular) 3/2907 1/Essex born warley en |Warley 3 brothers serving 1916 in India, Egypt, Warley, MANTELL Herbert Thomas Pte 4/11342 1/Middx died 22.10.14 PORTER Stanley Thomas Sgt 1052 2/HLI died 27.4.16 aged 28 buried Aix Noulette France PRICE Gerald William Tudor CSM London Rifle Brigade SAGGERS Charles W. Cpl 7511 2KRRC died 23.10.14 memorial Menin Gate SMITH W J Pte no information STURCH Frank Edmund Rfleman Z/2819 13 Batt Rifle Brigade kia Beaumont Hamel 14.11.16 aged 21 WALKER Edwin Kerry Pte M/283888 RASC kia 6.12.17 aged 39 in Mesopotamia ALSO not know if died LIEUT Douglas Renton Seaforth Highlanders known to be in action Oct 1914 Any help on any of these would be much appreciated Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Hi Patrick, One of these seems to be a local to me. PRICE, Gerald William Tudor, C.S.M., # 300780, 5th (City of London)Btn (London Rifle Brigade) Born at Forest Gate, Gerald Price lived at Leigh on Sea and was killed in action at Hendecourt-les-Cagnicourt, France on 29th - 30th August 1918 aged 36. Soldiers Died gives his address as Brentwood. He is on the Southend & District Roll of Honour. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 27 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Hi Patrick, One of these seems to be a local to me. PRICE, Gerald William Tudor, C.S.M., # 300780, 5th (City of London)Btn (London Rifle Brigade) Born at Forest Gate, Gerald Price lived at Leigh on Sea and was killed in action at Hendecourt-les-Cagnicourt, France on 29th - 30th August 1918 aged 36. Soldiers Died gives his address as Brentwood. He is on the Southend & District Roll of Honour. Andy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Andy, thats intresting. He was certainly living at Warley just before the war and is reffered to in the Parish Mag BB Section issue Oct 1918 as being "in the advance" I assume this to be the great push forward to the Hindenburg Line. One of the GWF members sent me details of the Census giving his address which I cant find at moment but will let you know. It seems very common to have names recorded on more than one memorial. I think his father was something of a benefactor to Christ Church Warley presumably qiute well off family Patrick Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaymen Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Patrick This is probably your Joslin man Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaymen Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 And this must be Price Glyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaymen Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Hi Patrick, One of these seems to be a local to me. PRICE, Gerald William Tudor, C.S.M., # 300780, 5th (City of London)Btn (London Rifle Brigade) Born at Forest Gate, Gerald Price lived at Leigh on Sea and was killed in action at Hendecourt-les-Cagnicourt, France on 29th - 30th August 1918 aged 36. Soldiers Died gives his address as Brentwood. He is on the Southend & District Roll of Honour. Andy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry Andy Repeating what you had already said. Apologies Glyn ( Brain Dead moment ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 27 April , 2005 Share Posted 27 April , 2005 Patrick, I will pop down to the library on Thursday and check this one out locally with address in Leigh on Sea etc etc. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 28 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Thanks Glynn, thats 2 more of them !! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Patrick, Looking through "The History of The London Rifle Brigade 1859 - 1919" it would appear that CSM Price was in the first battalion 1/5th London Regiment. Ther is some detail on the attack involved with this action. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandsonMichael Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Hi Patrick, Some background information from Burrows, Volume 6, pages 372 & 373. Pte. Cowling must have died during this battle on the 17th September 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandsonMichael Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Hi Patrick, Some background information from Burrows, Volume 6, pages 372 & 373. Pte. Cowling must have died during this battle on the 17th September 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandsonMichael Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Page 373 Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandsonMichael Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Ditto for L/Cpl. Gordon, looks like he died in the trenches by German shrapnel... He could have been fighting alongside my Grandfather, 7318 Charles Frederick Gambles, Sergeant 2nd. Bn. Essex Regiment at the time. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 Patrick, Re Price and the LRB this is form The History of The London Rifle Brigade 1859 - 1919 At 5am on the 24th the Battalion marched some six or seven miles to some gun pits one mile east of Blairville, where battle equipment, etc, was issued. At 6.30am it marched a further four miles to occupy Boyelles trench, half a mile east of Boyelles, in support of the front line, which had been carried forward by that time to Summit Trench along the top of the ridge three quarters of a mile west of Croiselles; and it remained there to receive a bombardment of yellow cross gas during the night, as well as heavy shelling in the morning and the afternoon of the next day. At 6.15pm on the 26th the Battalion left Boyelles Trench and advanced by sections to Summit Trench to relieve the 7th Middlesex, prepared to attack; at 9pm it started against the trenches running north and south on the west side of Croiselles with the Q.W.R. on its right. "C" and "D" Companies, which were leading, with "B" in support and "A" in reserve, got 400 yards froward up to a sunken road, when machine gun fire from the front and both flanks held up the attack altogether, and ultimately the Battalion withdrew to Summit Trench by order at 3.30am the next day in readiness for another attempt. This was made on the 27th at 9.30am with the same objectives, but with "A" Company and one platoon of "B" in front and the rest of the Battalion in support, and again only 400 yards were covered before machine gun fire from Croiselles and the trenches north of it produced so many casualties that no further progress could be made, and "A" Company could not get back while it was light. About 3.30pm the Battalion received orders to encircle Croiselles from the north by working down the Hindenburg line from Fat Switch. This operation was carried out without any unusual incident until reaching the Sensee River, when, owing to the trench coming to an end 200 yards from the river, the head of the Battalion came under heavy machine gun fire. However, by making a long detour the difficulty was surmounted, and eventually two trenches 500 yards east north east of Croiselles were occupied. Evenyually the night was spent in Burg Support. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stiletto_33853 Posted 28 April , 2005 Share Posted 28 April , 2005 On the 28th "A" Company, which had, as already mentioned, been unable to withdraw after the first action on the previous day, rejoined at 11.30am and at 12.30 the attack was pushed further forward, but with the east side of Bullecourt as its objective, and the Q.W.R. in the front line with the LRB in close support. Unfortunately "C" and "D", the left and centre companies of the LRB lost direction, and bore off to the left, and were eventually compelled by machine gun fire to hold up and consolidate north of Hendecourt. The result of this mistake was that the Headquarters of the two battalions engaged found themselves unexpectedly fighting together as front line troops, almost surrounded by machine guns, a situation which was not cleared up till late in the afternoon. On the right (which was the open flank) the companies of the QWR were badly knocked about by a nest of machine guns about 200 yards off and by similar fire from Croiselles. "B" Company LRB also suffered heavy losses and was pinned down, and an attack to outflank the nest from the south failed. In fact the whole brigade was held up until 7.30pm when Captain Burroughs, with the help of two companies of the Kensingtons and two Stokes Mortars which had been sent for, organised a local operation which ended in the machine guns being rushed by "B" Company, LRB. Ten machine guns and two trench mortars and 10 prisoners were captured, and incidentally the Headquarters relieved from their embarassing position. Tha night the Battalion, which only consisted of "B" Company and a handful of "A," as "C" and "D" had not then come back, rested in Knuckle Trench and the Hindenburg Line. It then goes on to the 29th Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick H Posted 29 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 29 April , 2005 Steve, Michael & Andy thanks very much for your contributions. I will look at all this in more detail over the weekend Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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