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Identifying a Regiment


Ncm1609

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I believe my grandfather was at Passchendaele around 1917 I'm trying to confirm this and identify his regiment.

I would appreciate any help in doing this.

Regards 

Neil 

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Welcome to the forum Neil,

a name and any more information about him will help a lot here.

Bob.

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Victor Mason born February 1899 and I believe he served as a batman 

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C4EF8A32-9324-4F92-BEC2-D1F6A4B4B9CA.jpegThe boys standing either side of your relative appear to be wearing Light Infantry badges on their jackets.  If you have the original photograph, a close up of the shoulder title (badge) the seated man if wearing would help to narrow the field. 

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Thanks for putting the picture upright @GWF1967 :D

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It's a Light Infantry badge - Durham LI or King's Shropshire LI I think.

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The two in suits appear to be wearing the same shoulder title as a lapel badge. I agree with Dai.

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My grandfather is seated and to his right are his brothers the remaining gentleman is a friend, I believe, and they are from Wakefield.

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Curved shoulder title suggests Territorial Force.
Liverpool Rifle battalion also had a similar badge.
I'm sure @FROGSMILE will know.

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I would think that Somerset LI shoulder titles are more in keeping.

Same with the lapel badges.

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Definitely light infantry given the universal bugle on shoulder straps, plus the lapel badges. I’m not sure if there’s a crown on the lapel badges?  If so Durhams perhaps.  Alternatively Shropshire or Somerset as Bob suggested.  I don’t think Oxf and Bucks though.

Where was grandfather’s home town?

My money is on Durhams, or KSLI as I can see lettering on the lapel badges.

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A search of the MiCs for a V Mason / Victor Mason with a connection to a Light Infantry only came up with two men:

Victor Mason -- DLI #75275 / Labour Corps #516195 / Royal Fusiliers #GS/111179

Victor H Mason-- Somerset Light Infantry #35028

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5 minutes ago, Allan1892 said:

A search of the MiCs for a V Mason / Victor Mason with a connection to a Light Infantry only came up with two men:

Victor Mason -- DLI #75275 / Labour Corps #516195 / Royal Fusiliers #GS/111179

Victor H Mason-- Somerset Light Infantry #35028

I think it’s the first fellow Allan.  The Somersets had a distinctive mural crown on top of their badge that’s not present on the lapel badges and I can definitely see lettering on the badge of the boy at left.

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Can't find any service record for either of the two men.

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2 minutes ago, Allan1892 said:

Can't find any service record for either of the two men.

Lost in the Arnside St bombing I guess.

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If it was #75275, he was with the 18th Btn, DLI (image courtesy of Ancestry)

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4 minutes ago, Allan1892 said:

If it was #75275, he was with the 18th Btn, DLI (image courtesy of Ancestry)

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Looks good.  Probably wounded and downgraded, posted to Labour Corps, then subsequently found fit enough for garrison battalion service with the Royal Fusiliers.  A not uncommon course of events.

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1 hour ago, Ncm1609 said:

Victor Mason born February 1899

His father, William Andrew Mason served in WW1. His military history sheet shows names of his wife and children which agree with the 1911 Census. Victor Mason's date of birth is shown as 5th February 1899, born Dewsbury. (images courtesy of Ancestry)

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14 minutes ago, Allan1892 said:

His father, William Andrew Mason served in WW1. His military history sheet shows names of his wife and children which agree with the 1911 Census. Victor Mason's date of birth is shown as 5th February 1899, born Dewsbury. (images courtesy of Ancestry)

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Looks like he - the father and a special reservist - moved on paper from the Bedfordshire Regiment (where he had been a time-expired former regular) to the 11th (or 17th?) Training Reserve Battalion as part of the reorganisation of training.

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Thanks for that. I was aware that my great-grandfather served as part of the training effort, he actually died in October of 1918 due to a fall at the camp.

He has a war grave at Wakefield cemetery.

I am also trying to discover his pre war service which I believe he served with the Bedford's.

Thank you for posting this information 😊.

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21 minutes ago, Ncm1609 said:

Thanks for that. I was aware that my great-grandfather served as part of the training effort, he actually died in October of 1918 due to a fall at the camp.

He has a war grave at Wakefield cemetery.

I am also trying to discover his pre war service which I believe he served with the Bedford's.

Thank you for posting this information 😊.

Forum members @Raster Scanning and @steve fuller might be able to help you with research into the Bedfordshire Regiment connection.

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Just now, Ncm1609 said:

Thank you 

Do you know what happened to the other three lads, the Boy Scout and the two with DLI lapel badges, did they serve too and hopefully survive the war?

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