French aircraft in Imp. German hands; a Ltn Wintjens "abschuss"; and German aircraft and a Flak, 1916.

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear All,

I would like to share postcard-size photos acquired in Stuttgart during the 1970s: some with "Sütterlin-schrift" details on the reverse.

Comments are by all means most welcome!

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[GreyC]

Nice photos!

First two show a French Cauldron downed November 16th in the Somme-region. Some Germans are probably (not really discernable) from Feldflieger-Abt. 59.

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear GreyC,

Thanks for that!  Your comments are greatly appreciated. 

Although I speak German, I was unable to fathom the Sütterlin-Schrift, unfortunately (a common problem). 

Kindest regards,

Kim.

[GreyC]

Pleasure.

For Wintgens see:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Wintgens

"your" photo is pictured there.

on the back of your photo it seems to say it was his last  victory, Somme 1916.

GreyC

Edited 29 March by GreyC

[GreyC]

The last photo with a plane on it was taken after may 1918 as this specific  type of cross was painted on the hull only from April to may 1918.

The photo with the plane marked with an  "E" was taken in the 2nd half of 1916 (combination of "E" and form of cross).

GreyC

Edited 29 March by GreyC

[charlie2]

1 hour ago, GreyC said:

on the back of your photo it seems to say it was his last  victory, Somme 1916.

 

Indeed it does, an „English“ one at that.

Charlie

[GreyC]

Which would date the photo to 24 Sep 1916, and the place pinpointed to Flesquières. One day later he was himself killed in action.

 

19

24 Sep 1916

Jasta 1

Fokker E.III

B.E.12 (6546)

Flesquières http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/germany/wintgens.php

[Kimberley John Lindsay]

Dear GreyC and Charlie,

Talk about "my" photo!

Thanks for putting things right: the one published shows much more detail, including the dead (presumably) French Pilot. 

Apparently a French SPAD ace, Alfred Heurteax (1893-1985) shot down Wintgens on 25 Sep 1916, the following day, as GreyC has so ably confirmed.

Yes, that unusually-designed recce aircraft has indeed the "late" Apr to May 1918 version of the "Balkenkreuz". Again, thanks are due, here, too. Super!

Kindest regards,

Kim.