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Cpl J Ross 2nd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders


carole

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I am looking for information on ,

corporal John Ross seaforth highlanders 

2nd battalion 

service number 241337

died in 4/10/1917 

belgium

He was born in wick and that’s all the information l have

regards carole

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Welcome to the forum @carole He is buried in Cement House cemetery, his body having been concentrated in, the link below will give you the documentation. 
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/98062/john-ross/

Link to the war diaries here, but maybe @Tom Lang has a transcript?
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14016966

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Welcome to GWF.

John ROSS

Dependant mother's pension index card seems to show he earlier had the number 4770 - that might perhaps unlock his earlier career in the UK ??

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Image thanks to WFA/Fold3

M

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MIC only shows 241337 - so he seems to have first landed in a ToW as that = British War Medal and Victory Medal only [so he landed after 31-12-1915]

The associated Medal Roll might offer something more - the chances are that someone else can follow up on that

Also shows he was SWB listed [Silver War Badge] - the chances are that someone else can follow up on that too

M

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45 minutes ago, Michelle Young said:

his body having been concentrated in, the link below will give you the documentation. 
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/98062/john-ross/

Carole, if you go to the WFA's TrenchMAPPER https://www.westernfrontassociation.com/trenchmapper then enter the map reference 20.V.19.a.0.8 then choose one of the map options you will be able to see the location his body was recovered from

I will mention @Howard and @WhiteStarLine as two of our members who should be able to help you further with TM and the trench maps of the period

TM also offer the geo-coordinates as: 50.920438, 2.946960 which you can put into web searches and modern mapping tools

M

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22 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said:

The associated Medal Roll might offer something more - the chances are that someone else can follow up on that

Medal Rolls attached (courtesy of Ancestry) -- doesn't add anything more

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1 minute ago, Allan1892 said:

Medal Rolls attached (courtesy of Ancestry) -- doesn't add anything more

Thank Allan, As I feared but you I don't know until someone else has looked!

I'm now wondering if the 4770 then 241337 but with a SWB listing might possibly suggest two periods of service with a potential gap between ???  Can you see that SWB too?

M

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Images courtesy of Find A Grave

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2 minutes ago, Matlock1418 said:

I'm now wondering if the 4770 then 241337 but with a SWB listing might possibly suggest two periods of service with a potential gap between ???  Can you see that SWB too?

Nothing coming up under 4770 I'm afraid.

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9 hours ago, Michelle Young said:

Welcome to the forum @carole He is buried in Cement House cemetery, his body having been concentrated in, the link below will give you the documentation. 
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/98062/john-ross/

Link to the war diaries here, but maybe @Tom Lang has a transcript?
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14016966

I was in the midst of preparing which pages to attach.

Here's my reply:

I'm attaching pages of my transcription of the 2nd Battalion, Seaforths.

The Battalion were preparing in late Sep 1917 for the attack on 4 Oct 1917, so I've included the last 2 pages from Sep and the first page from Oct 1917.

I also include copies of the 8 pages of the Report on the Operations of 4th - 6th Oct 1917, by the Commanding Officer. 

I think it is important to include these to provide a full impression of the Operations of that day.

Kindest Regards,
Tom. 

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