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Remembered Today:

The decline of Delville Wood


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Hi 

Absolutely shocking! Their present government have lost interest, I think we have all known this for a long time.

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Andy 

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I got shot down in flames on X/Twitter last week for showing pictures of the state of cemeteries I visited. The air of neglect seems widespread. 

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This was last year.

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At the end of winter, all memorials and cemeteries are dirty, especially in rainy winters.

The CWGC then undertakes spring cleaning.

For Delville Wod, the situation is different. This state of disrepair is due to the disinterest of the South African embassy.

No budget, no means. The CWGC has reported the condition of the memorial to the embassy numerous times. No answer.

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One has to take into consideration that the rules for the use of certain cleaning products etc. have been tightened in recent years. This, combined with a more restricted budget (?), may not make the task of the CWGC any easier to keep the cemeteries and memorials in good condition.

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Hi AOK4

You may be right about the chemicals, but please don't suggest that the CWGC has a restricted budget, they have enough. Perhaps if they didn't waste a good proportion of it on creating more and more unnecessary managerial positions that are not needed.Too many people at the top including some of the commissioners. The gardeners and the masons do a great job as usual. I personally think Fabian Ware would turn in his grave if he could see how it has manifested. It has changed from what it used to be.

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Andy

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there has been a chap on tv recently that uses non-chemical cleaners to clean headstones. does them by request but a google search throws up a couple of commercial cleaning companies.

I think Covid is a big factor. Things everywhere have changed since, seems to be less money around , other priorities, Taxes are being raised on homeowners. Prices are rising, not sure about now but the last time we visited , late september last year, there were hardly any visitors around the cemeteries  and even fewer drivers on the roads. Michelle might be able to update on today’s situation.

  I am in contact with relations on my mothers side, in my sig below there are a few interested relations to my findings but they are in their late fifties, upwards . There are none of the younger looking.

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8 hours ago, andrew pugh said:

Hi AOK4

You may be right about the chemicals, but please don't suggest that the CWGC has a restricted budget, they have enough. Perhaps if they didn't waste a good proportion of it on creating more and more unnecessary managerial positions that are not needed, just like the NHS. Too many people at the top including some of the commissioners. The gardeners and the masons do a great job as usual. I personally think Fabian Ware would turn in his grave if he could see how it has manifested. It has changed from what it used to be.

Regards

Andy

You definitely have a point about the CWGC priorities. I also have the impression that it seems to become a bit of a Mexican army (more generals than soldiers). Too much money for managers and unnecessary things and too little money for the real core business (gardeners and masons, but also proper research).

Jan

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15 hours ago, chaz said:

there were hardly any visitors around the cemeteries  and even fewer drivers on the roads. Michelle might be able to update on todays situation.

We didn’t see a single other visitor, only a couple of gardeners at Etaples and a team at Ribécourt Rd. We do tend to go to the less visited battlefields anyway. The roads were generally quiet, freight lorries  on the routes nationale, but not a lot on the back roads. A16 and A26 busier. 

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