Duncan Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Hi, Can anyone help me with a census problem? I recently bought a George VI Special Constabulary Long Service Medal to a Hedley A. Hedges. The dealer stated that he was born at Shepton Mallet, Somerset in 1889. I checked the 1901 census and cannot find a Hedley Hedges anywhere, and no Hedges coming from Shepton Mallet. Can anyone check the 1881 or 1891 census for me please, or offer any advice? I have a similar problem with an Able Seaman Ernest Gibbs born at Garleston, Great Yarmouth in 1875, killed in action in 1917. Oddly there is no record of him on the 1901 census. Many thanks, Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Hello Duncan I cannot help you with your Hedges problem but there is a possibility that Seaman Gibbs may well, given his age, have been a pre-war rating and out of the country when the 1901 census was taken. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Light Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Duncan Hedley shows up in both the 1891 and 1901 - in brief: In 1891 he is at Ashwick: Netherbridge: Shepton Mallet, Somerset RG12/1911 f.63 p.8 Harridge Farm Albert Edwin Hedges 27 Farmer Emily Kate Hedges 24 Lilian Kate 4 Hedley Albert 2 + a farm labourer and general domestic servant Hedley born in Ashwick. In 1901 the family were at 1, Triangle Villas, Twerton, Somerset - more children by then. RG13/2334 f.80 p.29 If you would like the page images with all the details let me know and I'll email them off list Regards Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Duncan In the 1901 census, Hedley Albert Hedges is living at Tiverton in Somerset, with his parents Albert (37), a dairy man, and Emily (34), brothers Ernest (5) and Wilfred (8 months), and sisters Lilian (14), Elsie (9) and Dorothy (7). The address looks like 1, Triangle Villas. In 1891, the family lived at Harridge Farm, Ashwick. Hedley's birth was registered in the March quarter of 1889, Vol 5c, Page 476. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linge Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Duncan Hedley Albert Hedges birth registered March Qtr 1889 Shepton Mallet Per 1891 Census Ashwick Albert Edwin Hedges (Head), aged 27 years, Born Stretton on the Fosse, Farmer Emily Kate Hedges (Wife), aged 24 years, Born Kilmarston Lilian Kate Hedges (Dau), aged 4 years, Born Willow Hedley Albert Hedges(Son), aged 2 years, Born Ashwick Ashwick is in the Shepton Mallet registration district 1901 Census Family are in Twerford Ernest Albert Gibbs birth registered in the March Qtr 1878 in Great Yarmouth (includes Gorleston) 1901 census Great Yarmouth Sarah A Gibbs (Head, Widow), aged 54 years, Born Leiston Suffolk, Charwoman Ernest A Gibbs (Son), aged 23 years, Born Great Yarmouth, Able Seaman Royall Navy Violet A Gibbs (Dau), aged 9 years, Born Great Yarmouth In 1891 the father James H Gibbs is with them aged 44 years, Born Gorleston, Suffolk, Fisherman Also daughters Agnes (20) and Elizabeth (17) Hope this is of help Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Sorry, Sue, crossed in the posting !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Light Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Stephen I was determined to get one in some time! I see some variations on the theme of a town, but it's Twerton, just west of Bath! And Pam has got Ernest as well! Sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linge Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Sorry Sue and Stephen I must learn to type more quickly. Anyway I think three answers are better than none especially if they all agree which I think we did. Pam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Sue Must be the failing eyesight !!! Pam Yeah, 3 answers pretty much confirms it. But I also noticed that the search on the PRO website didn't find him. Wonder what he's been transcribed as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Got him! PRO have him transcribed as "Nedley Hedges" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted 19 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Wow!!! Thanks every one, that's loads of help. I'm really delighted too cause I like collect WW2 medals with a Bath connection, Twerton now baing a suburb of Bath. Once again, LOADS of thanks everyone. Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 19 April , 2005 Share Posted 19 April , 2005 Am I too late? Bah, making me work while there be Censusing to do.... Mumble...grumble... <Walks away kicking the ground> Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted 20 April , 2005 Author Share Posted 20 April , 2005 I notice from other peoples kind responses that the ‘where born’ details are sometimes different. For example Emily Hedges is on the 1891 census as being born at Kilmersdon, and on the 1901 census as born at Holcombe. Though two villages that are close to each other, it seems odd that she gave two separate places. Similarly her daughter Lillian born at both Wellow and Stoney Littleton. Does this sort of thing crop up very often? Cheers, Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Nulty Posted 20 April , 2005 Share Posted 20 April , 2005 Duncan Yes, it does occur a lot! If you picture a scenario, when a person lived at home with their parents, then it would be the Head of the house would who have completed the census return and passed it back to the enumerator. By the time of the next census, the children may have "flown the nest" and may have completed the return themselves, or a spouse may have completed it for them, and entered the place of birth as somewhere close, but different from the original. Also, in a rural setting, two villages may have been close together, but the birth takes place in a farm not actually in either one! Then depends on which village the person filling in the census facnies being from :-) It's quite common for people to have a different view on where they were born, and also (more commonly), when they were born. So it's not a science, nor even an art, but chance. It can make tracking people down a little tricky, but Hey! What's life without a challenge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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