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Ww1 british 1908 pattern large pack?


josh2345678

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Hi there wanted to see if anyone had any information on this as I believe it's ww1 but not 100% any info would be very helpful thanks in advance.

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Hi Josh,

A good (but not 100%) indicator is whether or not there are reinforcing rivets at the base of the 2" tabs (see pic). These were later deleted as an economy measure, however, and you'll see 1918 examples without them.

All the fittings would have been brass though ,rather than steel, and yours looks a bit 'rusty' so I'd say not WW1 unfortunately.

The genuine article isn't too hard to track down, though, as this this item was retained with the introduction of 1937 pattern. I found my two 1915 examples in camping shops in the days when there would be a pile of them to sort through. The rivets made the process a lot easier!

Paul

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Hi Paul,

Thanks for the information you have shared with me.

you have a nice example there and they look to me like they are brass buckles on your one.  So are you saying they would of only been brass in ww1 eara and not steel?  

Josh

 

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Appears to be dated 1953, the “CN” stores code was introduced in 1949.

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Hi Josh,

Yes, to my knowledge it would have been brass fittings all round until mid/end of WW2 when the blackened steel tab-ends and buckles were introduced (although not exclusively) as a war economy measure and sometimes the metal tab-ends were dispensed with altogether. And these this was continued post war, although RAF webbing seems to have retained the brass versions. Presumably a difference procurement process.

Paul

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2 hours ago, paulowen said:

And these this was continued post war

According to Webbing at War, Vol. 1 - 1937 Pattern Webbing by Edward Hallett (p.86):

”Although manufacturers had used sheradised steel as an economy measure during the Second World War, they returned to brass as soon as wartime restrictions eased.  In the early 1950s, however, items of 1937 Pattern webbing began to be manufactured with blackened ‘bonderised’ steel fittings.”

(I personally have MECo examples of both, dating from 1952 & 1953.)

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13 hours ago, DisasterDog said:

According to Webbing at War, Vol. 1 - 1937 Pattern Webbing by Edward Hallett (p.86):

”Although manufacturers had used sheradised steel as an economy measure during the Second World War, they returned to brass as soon as wartime restrictions eased.  In the early 1950s, however, items of 1937 Pattern webbing began to be manufactured with blackened ‘bonderised’ steel fittings.”

(I personally have MECo examples of both, dating from 1952 & 1953.)

I think I'll track down a copy of that book!

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