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Remembered Today:

Mystery frog?


Steve1871

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My friend Paul again, just picked this up today, he is working a gun/ military show in Phoenix Arizona today. 
Does anyone know what this frog is? Possibly Great War used?  To me, it looks Spanish style, but just my guess

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It has similarities with the Italian frogs but they do not have quite such exaggerated flaps either side. It is certainly not a common frog. You would expect it is for a bayonet with a large quillon to prevent it rubbing on the hip and uniform. Not much help.

Cheers,  SS 

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The form is similar as mentioned but the sewing was done not proffesionally and the hole for hook doesnt look like well made, it could be a home made dress frog.

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One of my Spanish M 71 socket bayonets with scabbard and FROG. These are a bit scarce, but no think rare. My friends frog, on a scabbard, the scabbard looks fairly small. Both mine and my friends have the distinct swell for a socket.My three photos are first, then screen shot from web site or others

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Yes Steve, this could be a alternative Muster of similar frog was made, the quality of stitching on last presented piece is on higher level certainly, but the first frog could be variation of this type.

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Scabbard and frog for French socket bayonet 1822

 

Steve, Your scabbard looks like French or Belgian Albini Brandli 1867 

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Hand self-made German frog for extra bayonet with characteristic "wings" :rolleyes:

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Rafal

Thanks, I even have an albini  rifle and bayonet/ scabbard. So many of those socket scabbards with brass furniture look the same, if no markings , sometimes you simply can not be sure. On my Spanish m71 socket, I believe it is a tiny bit skinnier and length of scabbard is slightly shorter. But thanks. 
really like the French 1822 frog/scabbard. You got the Bayonet to go with it??! Thanks again, Take care

Steve

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I also liked it - that you can see the producer of the frog.
However, you can't collect everything - and a friend of mine already has it. All I have left are photos

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