RFT Posted 20 January Share Posted 20 January A MIC for J Tregoning, Civilan (Carpenter) contains the following - Date of application - "(a) Badge 17 Sept 1916 (b) Medal - . No. of File - Badge 342B/A.G. 10 Medal" Address of applicant 11, Racton Road, Fulham, SW Action taken "Ineligible" Presumably this MIC refers to the issue of an "On War Service Badge" and that he was ineligible for a medal. A couple of questions - 1. Does the badge ref. no. refer to a particular style or type of badge. 2. I cannot find any information on J Tregoning, other than a ref to the 1921 Census Returns, to which I do not have access. Can some kindly take a look at the Census and provide his DOB, address & occupation. I believe he may have passed away in 1935, but stand to be corrected. Thanks in advance, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 20 January Admin Share Posted 20 January Rob Courtesy FMP here's your man. Looks like in 1911 he was going by the name John? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 20 January Admin Share Posted 20 January His Trade membership [courtesy FMP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFT Posted 20 January Author Share Posted 20 January (edited) A Helston man - Thank you David for such a full response. This is much more than I was expecting. Earlier today I spent considerable amount of time searching FMP but couldn't pick up a link to him, other than the 1921 Census. JT is part and parcel of a 1WW "one-name" research I'm in the process of undertaking. Thanks again, Best regards Rob Update - John Tregonning (double n), Bap at Helston, 14/11/1883, son of John & Joanna Tregonning, of Camborne (Father was a Bank Clerk). John Tregoning "Bank Clerk" & Joanna Lenderyou, married at Truro Cathedral, 22 Mar 1883. Edited 20 January by RFT Updated, as above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 20 January Share Posted 20 January (edited) 20 hours ago, RFT said: Date of application - "(a) Badge 17 Sept 1916 Given that conscription was in place by 1916, it is likely to be an 'On War Service' badge? He could have been working in an exempted specialist job, or perhaps he was medically unfit for military service? Edited 21 January by Ivor Anderson Additional Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFT Posted 21 January Author Share Posted 21 January Thank you Ivor. Badge No. is 342B/A.G. There appears to be a plethora of these "On War Service" badges available, many of them private issue, and would certainly like to know to what the A.G. alludes to? Regards. Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 21 January Share Posted 21 January (edited) 38 minutes ago, RFT said: would certainly like to know to what the A.G. alludes to? So would I. Howard Williamson's (TGWMCC) has pages 542-556 on the war service badge, but the is no mention of a medal index card being used. However, on p.219 re MIC abbreviations Williamson states: 'A.G.10' = 'Adjutant General's Office, London Department for medals q.vv. room 10 medal section'. The problem is that MICs were used for post war issue of service medals. Ancestry image: Edited 21 January by Ivor Anderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin DavidOwen Posted 21 January Admin Share Posted 21 January It is not the badge number as he was "ineligible" for the badge, it is the file reference number of his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivor Anderson Posted 21 January Share Posted 21 January Good spot David! For some reason I had 'illegible' in my head! 342B was a RFA medal issue/roll ref. Presumably this records his application for a war medal being turned down as he was a civilian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFT Posted 21 January Author Share Posted 21 January 1 minute ago, Ivor Anderson said: 342B was a RFA medal issue/roll ref. Presumably this records his application for a war medal being turned down as he was a civilian? Right or wrong - I took the same view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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